Charging an Electric Vehicle In Public Can Cost Triple What Fueling Up a “Gas-Guzzler” Does

This percentage very much depends on where you live. The province of Canada where I live for example generates 99.8% of all electricity using renewable sources, and produces basically zero carbon emissions. The next province over, which is the only other one I travel to regularly, generates over 91% of its electricity from renewable sources or nuclear, and also produces basically no CO2 emissions.

Both provinces combined generate about 1% of their total electric output using coal, natural gas, or diesel. That is not the case for the western provinces however, and Alberta for example, generates about 90% of its electricity from coal, gas, oil, and bitumen, and consequently has CO2 emissions from electricity about 100 times as high as Ontario and Quebec combined.

If you think the only carbon emissions cost comes from driving these you are sadly mistaken. If we start to consider the big picture ie the carbon cost associated with manufacturing and disposal things start to look a little more even. If we truly want to be environmentally conscious then study after study have shown no matter what u chooses to drive if far better for the planet to buy it and run it for 15-20 years bot throw it away and buy new every 2

Let's not pretend the EVs aren't without thier own moral dilemmas. I'm all for green energy, but the stories from African mining operations are discouraging. Our hunger for modern batteries comes with it's own price in blood.

and yet the following is not topic of discussion in rebuttal.

When it comes to mass production of hybrid and electric vehicles, the main problem has been a shortage of batteries. And the main material in growing demand is lithium.  An element found in abundance in South America, where the cheapest extraction method by evaporating salt brines in the solar ponds deploys usage of cheap and toxic PVC; and in lithium-rich regions of Chile where extracting the metal uses two-thirds of the area’s fresh drinking water.

Lithium is the 33rd most abundant element, however, it does not naturally occur in its pure form due to its high reactivity. Lithium metal, due to its alkaline properties, is corrosive and reacts with water. Breathing lithium dust or alkaline lithium compounds irritates respiratory tracts. Prolonged exposure to lithium can cause fluid to build-up in the lungs, leading to pulmonary edema. The metal itself is a handling hazard because of the caustic hydroxide produced when it is in contact with water causing an explosion.

Lithium mining carries high environmental costs. Mining companies prospecting lithium in northern Tibet, salt plains of South America, and Chile as well as lithium at Bolivia's Salar De Uyuni require extensive extraction operations and water in a dry land.

What about how the electricity is produced to charge those vehicles. Or if you say solar panels which I'm sure doesn't provide 100% of the electricity what about the manufacturing of those. People buy electric cars to try and feel good about themselves but fail to realize how much damage they will do when the batteries are time to be replaced. Or how the power is being generated in the first place.

What about how the electricity is produced to charge those vehicles. Or if you say solar panels which I'm sure doesn't provide 100% of the electricity what about the manufacturing of those. People buy electric cars to try and feel good about themselves but fail to realize how much damage they will do when the batteries are time to be replaced. Or how the power is being generated in the first place.

Are we going to ignore the immisions when making these things. Or the fact that Boone is willing to fix ev so any environmental impact saved is lost 1000 times over when someone that needs an 800$ charge port changed is told it's going to cost them 16000$to repair there car and to just buy a new one this is what happens when you break anything on an ev right now and with right to repair in jeopardy even if someone wants to fix them they may not be aloud to or the parts will not be made available.

My electricity comes from a coal plant. Riding a bike is probably the only way to travel carbon neutral

My electricity comes from a coal plant. Riding a bike is probably the only way to travel carbon neutral

Climate change is a hoax. I'll take my fossil fuel vehicle any day. You will never stop using fossil fuels. Everything you own is possible because of fossil fuels, even aspirin. I'll also take fuel sourced in the US by grown men to batteries whose materials are mined by child slave labor in countries that hate us. What could possibly go wrong?

Another fool. Just because the emissions do not come out of the tailpipe doesn't mean 400 miles away the power plant isn't spewing out carbon. Your scope is so small and lacking any intelligence.

I'm sorry but this big myth that oil controls politics is bonkers. It is cost that has kept adaptation of electric. As costs went down, so did the ownership in electric increase. Not everyone finds a Prius the right vehicle for them. Can't haul much or tow. Can't carpool with the soccer team either. If your single or have a small family, the Prius is great. Can we get back to facts instead of spreading quantifiable false information that big oil has kept electric at bay? Utter nonsense. That Honda Insight with 2 seats got MPG in the 60s but with only 2 seats. Not many would think a 2 seat automobile is right for them. The first Tesla was a 2 seater as well based in a Lotus sports car.

I always find this argument interesting. We really need to look at the whole package for vehicles. From mining the raw materials, shipping, refining, part creation, assembly, vehicle shipping, lifespan, power source used to charge, and ultimately recycling the vehicle.
The numbers when you take the full lifespan of the vehicle into account, I haven’t seen any numbers showing that EVs produce any less greenhouse gasses.

On top of that, EV companies sell their carbon credits to other companies, which negatively impacts overall carbon production numbers too.

EVs are a scam.

I believe you are keeping blinders on when it comes to emissions. Currently it takes about 12 years to break even with electric vehicles on emissions.