There are few segments in the American auto industry that are more hotly contested than the full sized truck group and earlier this year, Ford Motor Company announced that the 2015 Super Duty would come with a new high output PowerStroke diesel engine that packs an awesome 440 horsepower and 860lb-ft of torque. That would have allowed the 2015 F350 to pack 55 more horsepower and 10lb-ft more torque than the Ram 3500 with the Cummins Turbo Diesel…until the folks at Chrysler announced the specs for the 2015 Ram Heavy Duty lineup.
Included for the 2015 model year is a new Cummins diesel engine that makes 865lb-ft of torque – making the Ram the most powerful truck in the class in the power figure that counts most in the world of hard workin’ trucks.
Ram Beats Ford in Torque, Payload and Towing
The 2015 Ford F350 Super Duty is powered by a 6.7L PowerStroke diesel that delivers 440 horsepower and 860lb-ft of torque which, in the right configuration, allows owners to haul an impressive 7,090 pounds in the bed and tow 26,700 ponds on a 5th wheel setup. The 2015 Ram 3500 is powered by a 6.7L Cummins Turbo Diesel that delivers “only” 385 horsepower, but with 865lb-ft of torque, it is the most powerful option among ¾ ton and 1 ton trucks. The 2015 Ram 3500 is capable of towing the same 30,000 pounds as the 2014 models with slightly less torque, but the payload capacity is increased to 7,390 pounds…meaning that while the Ram doesn’t pack the raw horsepower, it has the power to out-tow and out-haul the Ford F350 and the Chevy Silverado 3500HD in their strongest configurations.
The 2015 Chevrolet Silverado 3500HD is powered by a 6.6L Duramax Turbo Diesel that produces 397 horsepower and 765lb-ft of torque. In its strongest configurations, the Silverado 3500HD is capable of hauling 7,374 pounds and towing 23,200 pounds. Prior to this bump in torque for 2015, the Ram had trailed the Silverado in payload capacity by 54 pounds, but the added torque and added payload capability has given the Ram the lead in hauling as well…even if only by a small margin.
It should be noted that Ford Motor Company is claiming the most capable truck on the market with their 2015 F450, but when you are shopping strictly for a ¾ ton or 1 ton pickup – the Ram offers the advantage where it really counts.
Other Engines for the 2015 Ram Heavy Duty Lineup
In addition to the new 6.7L High Output Cummins Turbo Diesel engine, the 2015 Ram Heavy Duty lineup has four other engine options depending on the configuration chosen. The “base” engine for the 2015 Ram 2500 and 3500 is the 5.7L Hemi V8 that delivers 383hp and 400lb-ft of torque. Those folks who want a little more power than what is offered by the 5.7L mill can opt for a newer 6.4L Hemi V8 that is based on the high performance SRT engines. This bigger Hemi packs 410 horsepower and 429lb-ft of torque.
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Next up are two different non-High Output versions of the Cummins Turbo Diesel for the 2015 Ram 2500 and 3500. Those buyers who want a manual transmission can only select the 6.7L diesel engine with 350 horsepower and 660lb-ft of torque while trucks with an automatic transmission get a similar engine with 370 horsepower and 800lb-ft of torque. The 5th engine option for the 2015 Ram Heavy Duty is the High Output 6.7L Cummins mated to a 6-speed Aisin automatic transmission.
For comparison, the only other engine for the 2015 Ford Super Duty lineup is the 6.2L V8 that offers 385 horsepower and 405lb-ft of torque so while the F250 and F350 can challenge the base 5.7L Hemi, Ram’s 6.4L Hemi offers more gasoline power while the new 6.7L Cummins HO engine leads the diesel trucks in torque. The only other engine offered for the 2015 Silverado 3500HD is the 6.0L V8 with 360 horsepower and 380lb-ft of torque so while the Duramax diesel has the Silverado being at least somewhat competitive with the diesel powered F350 and Ram 3500, the Chevy’s gasoline V8 is by far the weakest of the group.
Ford Motor Company has the most horsepower in the heavy duty truck segment along with having the most powerful 450/4500 level truck in the segment, but with more torque, more payload capabilities and significantly greater towing capacities at the 3500/F350 level – the Ram brand has a clear advantage among the most popular consumer grade trucks on today’s market.
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dodge and ford both are
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dodge and ford both are nothing but trash! in my 50 years as a mechanic, on every make and model i drice a chevrolet! for uses recycled metal on there frames, shackles, brake and fuel lines and show me 1 good motor or trans! dodge can't keep anything from falling apart including shackles, transmissions, motors, and if the best they can do is 25 miles per gallon my 03 gmc v8 get 29 mpg on the road with the ac on and 18.9 in the city with 236,000 miles on it! all i can say is dodge and fords are trash and i challenge anyone to prove me wrong! just ask the public!
I can show you several good
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In reply to dodge and ford both are by john george (not verified)
I can show you several good engines from Dodge, try 3 of Wards 10 best engines with the 6.7 liter Cummings, the 5.7 liter Hemi, and the 3.6 liter V-6. I call BS on your 29 miles to the gallon on your 4.8 or 5.3 GMC truck. I think the public has already proven you wrong too, as the Ford is the number 1 truck in the US & Dodge just bumped your Chevy down to number 3 in truck sales.
its cummins not cumminGs. you
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In reply to I can show you several good by Sean M (not verified)
its cummins not cumminGs. you dont know much then about trucks because cummins is an independant brand with its own line of products.
If your truck gets that kind
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In reply to dodge and ford both are by john george (not verified)
If your truck gets that kind of gas mileage I want your calculator. Because mine is wrong. Where do you buy them at????
I pull your Chevy backwards
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In reply to dodge and ford both are by john george (not verified)
I pull your Chevy backwards 90 mph with my new f-350 DRW and send it to the scrap yard for GM to redesign.... An my 2015 has 440 hp and without a load gets 25 mph on hi way and 19.8 mpg in town.....honestly!
I have in my fleet of 25
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In reply to dodge and ford both are by john george (not verified)
I have in my fleet of 25 dodges 5500 3500 they are 2013 Packing. 100.000 and well over 300,000 miles and still going strong, I have seen a lot of comments I think the mechanics are the problem that need to upgrade, as for the fords, it has too many problems. Also to add Our last fleets was a 5500 dodge 6.7 packing over 1 million ,one hundred and seventy-three thousand miles, and said to be going strong. The only thing I have ever changed is the exhaust system.
I have in my fleet of 25
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In reply to dodge and ford both are by john george (not verified)
I have in my fleet of 25 dodges 5500 3500 they are 2013 Packing. 100.000 and well over 300,000 miles and still going strong, I have seen a lot of comments I think the mechanics are the problem that need to upgrade, as for the fords, it has too many problems. Also to add Our last fleets was a 5500 dodge 6.7 packing over 1 million ,one hundred and seventy-three thousand miles, and said to be going strong. The only thing I have ever changed is the exhaust system.
This guy clearly is a douche.
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In reply to dodge and ford both are by john george (not verified)
Although Chevy/GMC make a great truck they are no better than Ford or Dodge. Chevy like Dodge and Ford have had their fair share of P.O.S. That is a simple fact!
If your going tell us dodge
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In reply to dodge and ford both are by john george (not verified)
If your going tell us dodge and ford drivers off, make sure you spelled everything right. and dodge are so much better then Chevrolet.
If your going tell us dodge
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In reply to dodge and ford both are by john george (not verified)
If your going tell us dodge and ford drivers off, make sure you spelled everything right. and dodge are so much better then Chevrolet.
Duramax? U mean isuzu
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In reply to dodge and ford both are by john george (not verified)
Duramax? U mean isuzu
As for your comments I'll
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In reply to dodge and ford both are by john george (not verified)
As for your comments I'll agree on the Dodge, the 6.7 Cummins is the worst engine ever. I've changed a bunch of them and I'm sure that the heads are warped before they are even assembled but Fords 6.7 scorpion which they have built in house since 2010 and used in 2011 and up superdutys is an engine that will put mechanics out of work. The duramax is better then the Cummins but impossible to work on when it does need repair. Ford has the best truck since 2011
sean, your just like everyone
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sean, your just like everyone else, you believe all the crap that dodge and ford puts out! dodge has been banned 3 times in california for being lemons, did you know that? ford hasn't built a good car or truck for 40 years! and as for my fuel mileage in a chef v8 truck try me! you by a tank full, i'l buy a tank flu and we will see who goes the farthest! don't believe the 5.7 is any good at all or the 4.7, 3.7, 2.7 2.4 as i have changed out a couple hundred of them!
B.S.! There is no way a 12
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In reply to sean, your just like everyone by john george (not verified)
There is no way a 12 year old has changed out that many engines.
Maybe none of those Dodge and
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Maybe none of those Dodge and Ford trucks that you are working on fall apart because of the person working on them...not the company building them.
First off john you need a
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First off john you need a spelling class.. I'm a Dodge guy all the way and I've owned all three truck brands for my towing company and my 07 6.7 Cummins has 646,218 miles on it and has never had a problem with basic maintenance. Fords 7.3 was the best power stroke ever built no questions asked. my 06 Ford 6.0 was nothing but junk.. The Chevy 6.6 sucks. it got the worst gas mileage out of the three and was the slowest wile towing so as far as I'm concerned Dodge and Ford are the best and Chevy is just Chevy. Besides the Chevy Brand has the Biggest recall problems out of the three too..
I've owned 2 Rams, 2011 and
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I've owned 2 Rams, 2011 and 2012. Used to haul cars, a hot shot. Hauling 4 cars, driving thru VA and WV mountains, while pulling 24-25-26k at highway speeds at a 7% grade(by the way 2012 had max towing of 22,750 lb, which means that I was overloading it on all specs all the time driving day and night non stop) . I've "smoked" quite a few Fords and Chevys up the hills while hauling 4-5k more. And had no problems what so ever. I put a 100,000 miles a year, and that truck was just unstoppable. Will be buying another one pretty soon. Don't care what people say who owns it, Fiat Chrysler etc. It gets the job done, and done right. I've tested it out, pushed it to its limits. It stood up.
Laughing at the 29 mile per
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Laughing at the 29 mile per gallon I had a 07 Tahoe w a 5.3 I got 16 town 19 highway
In my 08 silverado I averaged the same.
I have had dodge 2500 diesels, Tahoes, escalades, silverado, 2012 powerstroke and yet I will now stay with new ram diesels every few years. I love my 14 cummins
I'll back John G. I've been a
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I'll back John G. I've been a Duramax fan for years. Dmitry, until you start towing on backroads and not pavement you haven't tested it or even come close to pushing it to the limit. I bought the new 14 Ram 3500 HD with the Aisin transmission instead of the GMC because of the advertised towing capacities. With 56000km (35000miles for you Americans) on it, I'm on my third transmission. I pull a 18000lb 44ft toy hauler fifth wheel through all kinds of weather conditions on gravel(sometimes) and dirt roads through the mountains of BC. Admittedly I am hard on equipment, but out here you have to get aggressive on occasion. Prior to the Ram I owned an 07 Sierra dually with the Duramax and Allison combination. The Duramax was programmed and the Allison was beefed up and I never broke it. My advice is buy the truck with the nicest interior and replace the rest with something you've built yourself. Beyond that I think they're all junk. My next move is to replace the Aisin with an Allison.
29 mpg. Is a joke. My brand
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29 mpg. Is a joke. My brand new dodge dart barley gets 29 mpg. And it can fit in the bed of my ram. So a truck of any brand getting 29 mpg is total bulls$%t.
Well guys after reading all
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Well guys after reading all your comments none of them are much help in the selection process of a new truck. I'd be happy getting 1/2 the 29 mph John gets. I have 1994 GMC crewcab dually 4x4 and a 454 gasser with relatively low miles ( 75K ), in primo condition. We use it mostly for going camping. We carry a Lance slide-in cab over camper. We boondock as much as possible, national forest that sort of camping. The captains chairs are extremely comfortable. Why would we want something newer ?? Because my wife would like a newer camper, one with a slide out to give a little more room and these new campers can weigh 5,000 lbs. or more in the bed. That's too much of an overload for my 94. I get between 7 1/2 to 9 mpg loaded, so something that will be as comfortable, carry the increased weight and some improvement in the mileage would be great. Oh ! and I've never had a breakdown.
I just purchased my 2015
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I just purchased my 2015 Chevy Silverado 3500 Dually 4x4 with the 6.6 Duramax Diesel Let me tell you Rd trip to Lake Tahoe (without pulling anything) and back to Vegas = 15MPG Combined driving mostly 75MPH
I am amazed how you can double your MPG Blown away!
First off Chevy has nothing
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First off Chevy has nothing to offer. Ford is playing catch up and GMC is just a princess. The best Truck on the market is the Ram. All three series of trucks, 1500, 2500, and 3500 have the best towing, pay load, fuel economy and options all the way around. I test drove and tested all four brand over a period of 6 months. my result were compared with my friends results and we had very similar numbers. As far as maintenence is concerned it depends on the person doing the maintenance. so if you really wanna compare apples and oranges go ahead. But I will stick to what my numbers churned out. not to mention Ram has the best warranty on the market.
Alright I have not noticed
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Alright I have not noticed anyone else state this, just a bunch of personal preferences not having anything to do with actual hard core facts. I am definitely not a fan of Ford and do not own fords but I am a numbers person and can respect when there is a truck that can beat the ones I prefer. Notice that this article is slamming Ford because of only a 5 ft.lbs. more of torque..... 5 pounds and apparently dodge destroys Ford in this scenario when the ford truck has 55 more horsepower and only 5 pounds less torque... also note that this article says only 385 horse for the dodge.... that is a significant amount less than the ford but in no way weak at all its still very powerful but it is a decent amount lower than 440 horse... but apparently 5 lbs of torque is enough to kill off ford. Thats BS and the dumbest and most immature excuse to put your preference truck in front of a competitor. I own GMC's and Dodges those are just the trucks I like but im not going to disrespect a competitor with 5 pounds of torque and a decent amount of horsepower lost. If you are going to say that come up with something better.
Tanner, you got your numbers
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Tanner, you got your numbers wrong. First of all the Ram 3500 packs 410hp not 385. Second of all it has an industry leading 865 lb-ft of torque therefore it has better torque to horsepower ratio effective doing more work and subclassing the F350. You would know this if you actually did your research and knew anything about automotive.
Research isn't you forte
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In reply to Tanner, you got your numbers by Danny (not verified)
Research isn't you forte buddy or maybe you can't read, did Ram increase their horsepower? Nope.
Horsepower is the rate at which you measure work and Ram has the least of it.
I call BS on all the
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I dont know what I'm more offended by; him trashing our trucks, or thinking we are stupid enough to believe the things he says. John, the math is the math. The laws of physics are etched in stone. It takes X energy to move Y load from point A to point B for a given speed.
Funny you should mention math
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In reply to I call BS on all the by James Allison (not verified)
Funny you should mention math James. I doubt that John, a mechanic for 50 years, who has changed hundreds of engines (a rare job even at the busiest dealerships), and gets 29 mpg in a full size pickup, like English, has a very good command of the subject. Just let him sit at his computer in his mom's basement looking at his decals of the kid peeing on the blue oval, wishing he had a truck to put them on. I'm just sorry he can vote!
5 lbs/ft is nothing to brag
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5 lbs/ft is nothing to brag about when your engine makes far less power overall. Power under the curve is all that matters and the 6.7 Powerstroke still has all contenders beat. Ram can't claim any win except for top # in the power wars. It still gets smoked in performance by the Powerstroke.
Dodge mileage at 29 is a 1500
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Dodge mileage at 29 is a 1500 with a Fiat diesel engine. Three trucks is made for a man who likes truck. So buy the truck that fits you and it will do the job. They all are about the same in horse power and torque. I like chevy so try to prove I am wrong.
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