Picture this: you've just spent a lot of money on a set of sleek bronze wheels for your Tacoma, only to have them marred by a careless Toyota tech during a routine service. It's a scenario that happens too often to many Tacoma owners. Here's what you need to know to avoid this common problem at the dealer.
Mike Navalta on the 4th Gen 2024+ Toyota Tacoma Owners Facebook page describes what happened to his new Tacoma's wheels. I came across his post, and it's worth taking a closer look.
He says, "Is it just me? Every time I go to the Toyota dealer for maintenance, having a bronze or Black wheel glossed up, they scratch them with no care or consideration for my truck, due to their impact wrench. Is there any way to request that they do it manually? It pisses me off every time."
It's an issue I've heard countless times before, but it's especially painful when it happens to a brand-new truck with expensive wheels. Mike's frustration is not unique, and it's a problem that strikes at the heart of every truck owner's relationship with their vehicle and their dealership.
What Would You Do?
My immediate reaction? Absolutely not, Mike, it's not just you. This is a legitimate and all-too-common problem. When you invest in a new vehicle, especially one with sharp-looking bronze or black wheels that make a statement, the last thing you expect is for them to be marred during routine service. His question, How do I prevent wheel scratches at the Toyota dealership, is one of the most critical topics for new truck owners today.
Let's dive into the core of this issue. It's a tale of two processes: efficiency versus precision.
The Impact Wrench: A Necessary Evil?
From the dealership's perspective, the use of an impact wrench is a matter of pure operational efficiency. The technician performing your tire rotation or other maintenance is working on dozens of vehicles a day. An impact wrench allows them to loosen and re-tighten lug nuts in a matter of seconds, dramatically speeding up the process. It's a powerful tool, a workhorse designed for brute force and speed. The problem, as Mike points out, is that this speed comes at a cost—specifically, the cost to his wheels.
The vast majority of Toyota Tacoma wheel damage from impact wrench incidents happens for a few key reasons:
- Improper Sockets: Standard impact sockets are made of hard metal and have no protection. A technician working quickly may not align the socket perfectly with the lug nut, and the friction and sheer force of the wrench can cause the socket to "walk" or scrape against the wheel finish.
- Lack of Protective Sleeves: Many modern sockets are designed with a plastic or nylon sleeve to prevent metal-on-metal contact. A busy or careless technician might use an old and worn-down non-marring socket or grab a standard one without the protective feature.
- Cross-Threading and Over-Torquing: An impact wrench, especially a powerful one, can be notoriously inaccurate. It's impossible to gauge the exact torque applied, and it's easy to over-tighten lug nuts, which can lead to stripped threads on the studs or the lug nuts themselves. Worse, if a tech starts the lug nut crooked—a process known as cross-threading—they can force it on with the impact wrench, causing damage to the stud and nut.
What Should Truck and Car Owners Do?
Now, for the good news. Mike asked if there's a way to request manual work. The answer is yes, absolutely. But it's not just about a simple request. It's about a three-pronged strategy that puts you in control. Think of it as best practices for tire rotation on those expensive wheels—a crucial part of any vehicle's wheel maintenance tips.
Here is a three-step strategy to protect your wheel's finish and ensure they use a torque wrench.
Step 1: The Pre-Service Briefing
Before you hand over your keys, speak to your service advisor. Explain your concern clearly and calmly. Say something like, "I'm a stickler for my wheels. Can you please add a note to the work order that all lug nuts are to be hand-torqued after installation?"
Make sure they write it down. This is your insurance policy. If the wheels get scratched, you have a documented request that the dealership failed to honor. A proactive approach is key to protecting custom truck wheels during service.
Step 2: Understanding the Right Tools
When you make your request, it helps to sound knowledgeable. You're not just asking them to be careful; you're asking them to use the right tools for the job. You're asking them to use a torque wrench, not just an impact wrench.
The difference is critical. An impact wrench uses quick, powerful bursts of rotation to apply high torque, but it's not meant for precision. A torque wrench, on the other hand, is a precision tool.
It allows the technician to tighten each lug nut to the exact factory specification, ensuring proper fit and safety while eliminating the risk of over-tightening or damage. When you ask them to use a torque wrench, you are making a specific, professional, and reasonable request.
By the way, the official spec for your new Tacoma's lug nuts is 83 lb-ft. Knowing this detail shows you've done your homework.
When speaking with the service advisor, be specific. Mention that you want them to loosen the lug nuts with the impact wrench (for speed, as that's fine) but that you want them to manually hand-tighten each one to spec with a torque wrench. Your request for manual lug nut tightening at the dealership is a standard and professional request that any good service department should be happy to honor.
Step 3: The Post-Service Inspection
Never leave the dealership without a thorough inspection. Walk around your truck, examine the wheels, and look for any scratches, scuffs, or nicks on them. If you see any new damage, point it out immediately to the service advisor, before you drive off.
This is why the pre-service briefing and the notes on your work order are so important. They can't claim the damage was pre-existing if you have a documented request for care.
The Bigger Picture
This isn't just about your wheels. It's about the value you place on your vehicle and the right to expect quality service. You've invested in a fantastic truck, and the wheels make a statement. Advocating for their proper care at the dealership isn't being a difficult customer; it's being a smart and responsible owner.
The reality is, a good Toyota dealer's service department should be doing this anyway. The most professional shops use non-marring sockets and finish every job with a torque wrench to ensure safety and precision. The fact that Mike's wheels were repeatedly scratched suggests a systemic problem with the process at that specific location.
This isn't about blaming the technicians, who are often under immense pressure to work quickly. It's about empowering yourself with knowledge and making sure your requests are clear, documented, and followed.
Conclusion
In the end, a little bit of proactive communication can save you a whole lot of frustration—and a lot of money in wheel repairs.
What Would You Do?
Now, I want to hear from you. Have you had a similar experience with your Tacoma or other vehicle? How did you handle it, and what was the outcome? Let me know in the red Add New Comment link below!
Check out my Toyota Tacoma story: And So It Begins, I Picked up My 2025 Toyota Tacoma Yesterday, It Has 30 Miles On It, and It’s About to Be Torn Apart
I am Denis Flierl, a Senior Torque News Reporter since 2012. My 30+ year tenure in the automotive industry, initially in a consulting role with every major car brand and later as a freelance journalist test-driving new vehicles, has equipped me with a wealth of knowledge. I specialize in reporting the latest automotive news, covering owner stories, and providing expert analysis, ensuring that you are always well-informed and up-to-date. Follow me on X @DenisFlierl, @WorldsCoolestRides, Facebook, and Instagram
Photo credit: Denis Flierl via Mike Navalta
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Drives a truck and cries…
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Drives a truck and cries about his wheels getting dirty and scratched? LOL
Offroad tires that never touch dirt.
Wheels that are meant to look "cool".
I bet it sees less dirt driving than my Honda civic.
These are the people who don't understand trucks
Right?! Lol if your pavement…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
Right?! Lol if your pavement princess is that important to you, then you need to learn to do it yourself. I use none marring sockets all the time and they still leave scuffs and markings it's the name of the game I'm not about to use a hand tool because this guy's dumb enough to pay for a half size that's priced like a full size and complain about someone else doing a service for him that he won't or can't do himself.
I have cars from the 80's,…
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In reply to Right?! Lol if your pavement… by Randy michaud (not verified)
I have cars from the 80's, 90's and 2000's that I have owned for decades that have no scuffs on the rims from wheel/brake or tire service. I take care of my things, and that's why they last. If you bring your car in for service and the mechanic damages your property- they should own up to it and they should have to fix it. There's absolutely no reason to scratch, scuff, dent or damage somebody's car while performing service if you do it's an accident or careless and can be avoided. I would also be very upset if I brought my car in for service and it were damaged in any way when I picked it up.
To the people on here commenting that he has a truck and therefore he shouldn't whine about scratches... it's none of their business what he does with his truck. Do what you want with your Honda Civic it's yours. His truck will outlast your car. And if he wants to take care of his belongings that he works hard to afford, I respect that.
I’ve had the same issue with…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
I’ve had the same issue with my dealer. 2500 HD Ram. They paid to have them repaired by manufacturer in California. I live in Florida. Wasn’t cheap. They’ll never mess up again though.
The only way to take off…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
The only way to take off these fancy wheels is with THE CUSTOMERS lug socket as well. If your wheels get damaged its usually not the techs fault and yeah - your pos chinarims.
Sorry to say dealerships are…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
Sorry to say dealerships are nothing but a rip-off nowadays!!! Your grandfather's generation would have never let that happen.!!!!! These new owners of dealerships are nothing but rich kids with parents money to buy them a dealership, the owners are always nice and clean with a tie and a white shirt , those are the rich owners of dealships . Have them go change some tires. Bet they can't even find the tools to do it. They don't even know what's going on in the back!!!. Out back in their dealerships....yes they are just a cash cow for owners!!. At their overly expensive $200 an hour service departments with guys out back scratching their heads and we are on the clock. while owners sit in their offices deciding where they're gonna set up another dealership so they can rip people off!!!!! It's disgusting. Just disgusting, this world is a mess and not gonna get better with service at dealerships.!! That's for sure till the owners get dirty outta back .they know how to count all the money to build more dealerships!!! . Just remember, as they always say, they don't make any money.On new cars so they must make a tremendous amount of millions on the service department who should care if they scratch your wheels
I am your grandfather’s…
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In reply to Sorry to say dealerships are… by Tyler (not verified)
I am your grandfather’s generation. Last time I bought a car at a dealer was 1993. It wasn’t better decades ago.
Some people care about what…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
Some people care about what they drive, and if you drive a Honda civic why would you care
I call people like that…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
I call people like that pavement princesses. Lol
Ryan, So, your argument is …
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
Ryan,
So, your argument is "We can't have nice things?" Maybe you don't understand some truck people:
Someone spends money on something nice, a truck in this scenario, for himself;
Uses it the way he wants;
Enjoys it the way he wants;
Takes care of it the way he wants;
Takes it to a professional for service;
THEY damage it through accident or negligence;
He has every right to expect satisfaction.
What any individual likes or how they expect to use it is not for us to judge.
You may believe trucks (or Honda Civics) are just tools for use and abuse.
I may believe trucks (or minivans) are just tools for use and abuse.
Who cares that some people don't see trucks, or cars, or minivans as workhorses, but instead showhorses?
Consider this:
Have you ever seen a scratched, dented, dusty, or dirty truck on a showroom floor? Even the beat-up, used vehicles on a dealer lot have been cleaned up to look their best.
Ryan, stop wasting your energy. Get over your truck envy. Put a recovery winch on the front of your Civic already.
You mean tow hook so the…
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In reply to Ryan, So, your argument is … by Vic S. (not verified)
You mean tow hook so the Tacoma can pull it to the Wrecker
That is a facility that does…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
That is a facility that does repair by volume not a boutique shop working on high end vehicles. I am certain they could take more time for a price. I take mine there for a thorough job done right at an economical price. I certainly don't want to pay inflated rates when I could care less.
That is a facility that does…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
That is a facility that does repair by volume not a boutique shop working on high end vehicles. I am certain they could take more time for a price. I take mine there for a thorough job done right at an economical price. I certainly don't want to pay inflated rates when I could care less.
Drives a truck and cries…
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Drives a truck and cries about his wheels getting dirty and scratched? LOL
Offroad tires that never touch dirt.
Wheels that are meant to look "cool".
I bet it sees less dirt driving than my Honda civic.
These are the people who don't understand trucks
Pavement princess got…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
Pavement princess got scratched lol
Not to nitpick, but using an…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
Not to nitpick, but using an impact wrench can also cause brake problems like warped drums and rotors, thereby causing pulsating and grabbing uneven braking, that can be dangerous in wet or icy driving conditions. Mike
Happened to all 4 wheels in…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
Happened to all 4 wheels in my brand new 2004 Nissan 350Z during my first oil change at the dealership where I paid cash for the car. I was hopping mad! Walked immediately into the general manager's office and told him I expected him to replace all 4 wheels at no cost to me and that's exactly what he did with no argument.
That's a great point. How…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
That's a great point. How many pickups I see with giant tires, pretty rims and absolutley nothing in the bed. speeding in the 3rd lane. Talk about a joke.Talk about waste. Good thing you got 44" tires flying down the highway,carrying nothing.That's great.😆
Come on! Everybody knows…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
Come on! Everybody knows these are a real trucks anyway.
Ur right about that!but also…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
Ur right about that!but also 2 problems with it. Small lug holes and large nuts. toyota lug nuts are wide. They have big holes around them because they are lug- centric. This allows any 21mm socket to fit. But the aftermarket wheels? Hubcentric. Hubcentric with notably smaller holes requiring the use of the thinnest wall 21mm socket but it still mars the finish
In this case, i recommend replacing your lugnuts with 19mm head nuts. Just gained 2mm clearance and thats all it took! Now it fits, even with the nylon rim protector socket.But the request the author asked of the service advisor never excluded the use of an impact. He went on to ask for it???. Just buy your tech the socket as a gift, but make sure it fits first. When I was very green I had a customer that read service information, and would then bring the special tool and leave it in the car with a just in case note. What a cool dude. The gift will by far return the cost to you in savings and unmarked rims.
That dude needs to grow some…
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In reply to Drives a truck and cries… by Ryan (not verified)
That dude needs to grow some hair on his balls. What a sissy!!
If you have to instruct your…
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If you have to instruct your service write on how a tech should be properly servicing your vehicle then you need to find a new dealer. That's absolutely amazing and not your responsibility. They'd get one notice, fix it. Second notice is to manager of department, dealer general manager and or owner/ownership group. If your technicians can't remove and replace a wheel without damage, they are unqualified to be doing ANYTHING more involved.
EVERY dealership does this…
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EVERY dealership does this. Some guys take more care than others but it happens everywhere. Including in the Mercedes dealership I work for.
Or… learn how to do it…
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Or… learn how to do it yourself. It’s both rewarding and saves tons of money/time then use all that money you saved for a good time or save it all for a great vacay!
Nobody will take care of your taco as good as you!
Well, you obviously don't…
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Well, you obviously don't live in New Jersey where you're not allowed to pump your own gas. It seems like them idiots can't hit a gas filler on the first try without scratching the crap out of your car
This happened to me on a new…
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This happened to me on a new RAV4 and Tacoma. First tire rotation at 5000 miles and rims were scratched. Part of the problem is with management and the irresponsible people they hire. I have witnessed a very good dealer take a turn for the worse after a buyout.
I avoid the trauma,…
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I avoid the trauma, heartbreak, and agony of my car getting scratched by driving a POS that I'm not emotionally invested in.
LOL, I know, right? Ain't…
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In reply to I avoid the trauma,… by Richard A Park MD (not verified)
LOL, I know, right? Ain't that the truth.
If they're scratching the…
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If they're scratching the lug hole with the impact tightening it, it'll happen loosening it. As someone who does a lot of custom wheels and tires on trucks... there's going to be scratches regardless of using an impact and/or manual torque wrench. Why? Most mechanics don't have thin walled impacts or thin walled regular sockets. Combine that with your poorly made "expensive" wheels, and the lug walls are getting marred up. Be a man and deal with it, or buy quality wheels that don't have lug holes that are too small. I've used an impact for my tire rotstions, brake changes, transmission swap etc.,on my Methods, and have yet to scratch anything. There's a lot of blame on technicians here and none on cheap wheels.
Thin walled sockets don't do…
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In reply to If they're scratching the… by Luke (not verified)
Thin walled sockets don't do well against overtightened bolts or nuts, which is why they aren't they first thing a mechanic will grab. I have my own thin walled socket for my car, but I don't let knuckle daggers touch my wheels...
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