A recent Tesla Model Y buyer, fed up with a string of frustrating transactions, declared "I hate car dealerships with a passion" after a series of experiences ranging from a smoke-filled Jeep Compass listed in "Great" condition to a Chevy dealer reneging on a trade-in offer. This owner's journey through five separate dealership and used car retailer encounters culminated in a direct purchase from Tesla, which he described as a "night and day difference" from the traditional model. The core problem, as he sees it, is a systemic lack of transparency and customer focus within the conventional automotive retail system.
The narrative on Reddit reveals the persistent chasm between advertised promises and delivered realities, exposing a sales culture that prioritizes profit over customer satisfaction, often through deceptive practices and hidden fees. For any potential car buyer, this account shows the battles many still face when trying to acquire a vehicle, especially a used Tesla Model Y.
"r/TeslaLounge icon Go to TeslaLounge r/TeslaLounge • 15h ago ClockwiseJohny
I don't like car dealerships with a passion, and buying my first (used) Model Y directly from Tesla has further confirmed how much I hate them. General Full disclaimer, I realize this is another one of those "car dealerships suck" posts. This post is also going to be long. But hear me out.
I hate car dealerships. I think they are a scummy, forced middleman staffed by (usually but not always) some of the most annoying, sales-focused people out there. In my life of buying cars, I have yet to have a single instance where either the experience or the car itself did not have issues, and the support I got after the fact has always been nonexistent:
Carmax - Tried to buy a used Jeep Compass. Asked some questions to the rep, everything, including the photos, checked out, and I paid to have it transferred to the location near me. Got into the car, WREAKED of smoke. Carmax said, "well you didn't specifically ask if it was smoked in, even though it was listed in Great' condition. Had to argue to get my car transfer fee refunded. (I'm also aware Jeeps suck, it's what the wife wanted at the time).
Local Jeep dealership - Bought a Jeep Compass from super pushey sales people directly after the Carmax situation. The car itself was fine for a month before it would randomly turn off on the highway. The Jeep dealership said "sorry, you bought it as-is", and not that "as-is" was no error lights/codes and was running perfectly the day it was bought. Never figured out the issue there, and also found out it was burning through oil faster than it should. Did 7 months of oil consumption tests with a dealership that kept messing it up over and over, only to be told "yeah, it's burning oil at an alarming rate, but not enough for Jeep to justify fixing it, so you're on your own". Sold the car.
Local Honda dealership - A close family member was about to come up to the end of their lease on their CRV right when our Jeep was sold, so we offered to buy it out from them. The dealership they were going through said they could write up the paperwork for the sale directly to us at no cost, and we should be good to go. The day the transaction is supposed to happen, BOOM, magically there's a $2,000 "filing and transfer" fee that the dealership themselves were charging. We were met with "you didn't think we were going to do this for free, did you?", even though that's exactly what they said they'd do IN WRITING. Ended up having the family member buy the car, and we bought from them instead.
Local Chevy dealership - Looking to sell my current car as it's nearing the end of its life, and I plan to get a different car (Tesla). Got an email from a dealership saying, with no fine print or "gotcha" clause in an email, that they'd offer $1000 over KBB value. All they need to do is see the car. Note, my car is worth $3k-$4k. Went and got it looked at, and the Sales wrep came back with an offer saying "between you and me, I wouldn't take this deal", and proceeded to tell me that his manager is willing to offer $900, citing that "they had a few of these models already and didn't need more", even though they knew the make/model/year/mileage when they originally emailed me. Left, right, then and there.
Carmax again - Looking for a Tesla Model Y. Found one, and asked a TON of clarifying questions so as not have a situation similar to my previous Carmax situation above^. Everything checked out, and I paid to have it moved to the location near me. Went to see the car, and it was nothing like it was pictured. Note that the Carmax listing specifically had a section called "imperfections" and only noted and photographed 2 scuffs. The car had WAY more scuffs, as if someone scraped from the front bumper to the mid-door, and more scuffs around the car. The interior was stained, the screen had "burn-in", and the battery capacity test returned at 80% for only having 70k miles. When asked why the car was listed and priced as it was, given what the actual condition of the car was, the rep didn't really have an answer, and I once again had to be refunded the transportation fee.
Note that between Carmax and dealerships, anytime a car was actually purchased and we had to transfer the plate from my current car to the new car, it was always met with an eye-roll as if it was the most inconvenient thing to do. They were always happy to sell the car, but answering questions, paperwork, and support after the fact was always nonexistent.
Fast forward to Tesla:
Found a deal on a 2022 Model Y Long Range AWD, with like 2/3 the miles of the Carmax one, active Tesla warranties, and overall in much better condition. I called Tesla to ask some questions, and they were super helpful and not pushy at all. I could tell they cared, but they didn't care if I bought the car, which felt low-pressure. Buying the car was easy via their website. Once I downloaded the app, it literally held my hand getting the checklist of what I needed done. Transferring a plate? Just take a photo of the existing registration. Insurence? Just upload the PDF. Financing? Here are all the documents you need to go to your bank with all the fields already filled out and in PDF form. This is a literal night and day difference. And you know what I didn't pay for? Any "dealership markup" or "packaging fee" that dealerships have tried to charge me over the years. And I'm super stoked about the 1-year used warranty and the 120k battery warranty. I realize that Tesla service is a hot topic at times, but as long as I can get whatever I need fixed (I live 5 miles from the service center), that will be the difference between slow support and no support, and no support is what I'm used to.
Mark my words, if I can help it, I'll never work with a dealership (stealership) again."
The owner's litany of grievances reads like a "greatest hits" of dealership frustrations. From the "as-is" sale of a Jeep Compass that burned oil and randomly shut off on the highway, to a Honda dealer attempting to tack on a surprise $2,000 "filing and transfer" fee despite written assurances, the pattern is clear: the customer is often seen as an adversary to be outmaneuvered. This is a business model built on exploiting informational asymmetries and leveraging the buyer's desire for a new vehicle against them.
Tesla Model Y: Performance, Range, and Ownership Details
- The 2022 Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD, as purchased by the owner, typically offers an EPA-estimated range of around 330 miles on a full charge. Its dual-motor configuration provides quick acceleration, reaching 0-60 mph in about 4.8 seconds.
- Tesla's used vehicle warranty for a Model Y includes 1 year or 10,000 miles of additional coverage after the original factory warranty expires. The battery and drive unit are covered for 8 years or 120,000 miles, retaining at least 70% capacity.
- The direct-to-consumer sales model bypasses traditional dealer markups and often simplifies the purchase process through an integrated online platform. This eliminates the negotiation and finance office pressures common at franchised dealerships.
- Despite the streamlined buying experience, Tesla service centers have faced criticism for long wait times and inconsistent communication, particularly for issues that are not immediately critical. The owner's proximity to a service center is a significant mitigating factor in his satisfaction.
The experience at Carmax, a supposed alternative to traditional dealerships, was no better. The first attempt to buy a Jeep Compass resulted in a smoke-filled vehicle despite a "Great" condition listing, requiring an argument for a refund of the transfer fee. The second Carmax encounter, for a Tesla Model Y, was even more egregious: a car "nothing like it was pictured," with significant unlisted body damage, a stained interior, screen burn-in, and a battery capacity of only 80% at 70,000 miles. This shows a fundamental problem with how "certified" used vehicles are presented and inspected, regardless of the seller.

The comments section confirms that this buyer's experience is not an anomaly. User u/TotaledWithinSpec recounts a nearly identical sales dance from 20 years ago, where a salesman pulled out a number "$15k more than what was on the website" for an Audi, then engaged in the predictable back-and-forth, complete with the "head honcho" closing tactic. This shows the stagnation of sales practices in an era where consumers are supposedly more informed.
Reddit user TotaledWithinSpec posted: They all do the same song and dance. I remember when I was buying my first car, the salesman was using every trick in the book.
Fast forward 20 years, and nothing has changed. I recently went with my friend who was looking at a used Audi. He did the test drive, liked it, and we went inside to “talk.”
The salesman pulls out a random number that was 15k more than what was on the website. They neglected to list the “upgrades” and “addons” that were done to the car. They do their back and forth, and the sales guy says he’s going to see what he can do and talk to the finance department or something, so he walks to the back.
They did exactly this to me 20 years ago. I told my buddy he’s going to make us wait here for 10-20 minutes, you’re going to say, “not good enough” rinse and repeat, then they’re going to bring out the head honcho, he’s going to write a number, draw a line on a piece of paper ask you to sign it like it’s a binding contract and act like it’s a sweet deal. I told him what was going to happen, and they did exactly that. Predictable.
This commenter is precisely right. The "random number" tactic, the phantom manager consultations, the pressure to sign immediately, these are not relics of a bygone era. They are standard operating procedures in too many dealerships, designed to wear down the buyer and extract maximum profit. The fact that these tactics have remained unchanged for two decades reveals an industry that has resisted meaningful reform, clinging to practices that alienate customers.
The owner's eventual purchase of a 2022 Model Y Long Range AWD directly from Tesla stands in stark contrast to his previous ordeals. He shows the lack of pushy sales tactics, the seamless online buying process, and the digital handling of paperwork like plate transfers and insurance. Crucially, he notes the absence of "dealership markup" or "packaging fees," which have become a notorious profit center for traditional dealers. This experience reveals the potential of a direct sales model to bypass the most frustrating aspects of car buying.
However, the direct model isn't without its own set of challenges, particularly in post-purchase service. User u/ThaiTum, a long-time Tesla owner, points out that while the buying experience can be smooth, "Tesla has a great experience if everything works correctly and there isn’t anything wrong with your car." The friction arises, according to this commenter, when issues do occur, making post-purchase service a "hassle."
This is a critical distinction: a good buying experience doesn't automatically translate to a good ownership experience.
ThaiTum • 12h ago Model S P100D, Model 3 LR RWD Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter Tesla has a great experience if everything works correctly and there isn’t anything wrong with your car. They have trouble when it doesn’t, and dealing with post-purchase service is a hassle. Some of the problems people report should have been noticed and fixed before delivery.

This perspective is important. Tesla's direct sales model eliminates the middleman, but it also consolidates control over the entire customer journey, including service. When that service falters, the owner has fewer avenues for recourse than with a traditional dealer network. This creates a different kind of vulnerability for the customer, one where the speed and efficiency of the sales process are not always matched by the responsiveness of the service department.
This owner's detailed account, corroborated by others, paints a damning picture of the traditional car-buying experience. The persistent issues with transparency, predatory pricing, and poor customer support from both conventional dealerships and large used car retailers like Carmax are not isolated incidents; they are systemic failures. While Tesla's direct sales model offers a reprieve from these specific frustrations, it introduces its own set of challenges, particularly concerning post-purchase service. The industry must evolve beyond these adversarial sales tactics, or consumers will continue to seek alternatives that prioritize a straightforward, honest transaction, even if it means navigating new service paradigms.
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