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Why American Honda won’t introduce a Si variant with Civic Coupe in March

2016 Honda Civic is scheduled for dealership arrival in March. Why no Civic Si, Honda?


As viewed on the revolving Honda stage of the Los Angeles Auto Show when first introduced to the public last November, the 10th generation Civic Coupe evoked thoughts of Civic Si, and a nagging question or two as to why Civic Si had apparently disappeared from the lineup.

What was Honda’s marketing game plan in the exclusion of Civic Si from the 10th generation lineup? While there is no shortage as to speculation presented by my associates of the national automotive press corp, I believe the absence of Si from the 10th generation Civic lineup comes down to two factors, cautious marketing and performance engine manufacturing capacity.

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No_Civic_SiAs stated by Hondapro Jason and others, the 2017 Civic Si may sport a detuned 2.0 Liter EarthDreams ™ turbocharged VTEC engine. You that follow Honda news most likely know that the 2.0 Liter turbocharged engine recently came on line at Honda’s Anna,Ohio engine plant.

Presently, the 2.0 Liter earmarked for future Civic Si application is dedicated to the English built 2016 Civic Type-R, which raises another question. Why not simply dial up the boost on the 174 horsepower 1.5 Liter turbocharged mill residing under the hood of the 2016 Civic Touring?

Here’s the problem

The 9th generation 2015 Civic Si produced 30% greater horsepower than a standard 1.8 liter i-VTEC Civic engine. Assuming that the present Civic Sedan Touring pegs the Dyno at 174 horsepower, to attain comparable Si performance, the 1.5 Liter turbo must be boosted to reliably produce 226 horsepower and no less than 200+ ft lb torque; a tall order for a relatively low revving small displacement 4 cylinder engine.

With much ado about Civic Type-R, we find no mention of Civic Si in Honda announcements

The truth of the matter: A.H.M.C. has not promised the delivery of Civic Si of any variant for model year 2016. Instead, Honda has focused marketing and subsequent public interest on the 2016 Civic Sedan, with a much-like Si performance “Touring” trim option, all the way down to the red-piping-trim seats and perforated brake and gas peddle. Missing here is the much loved close throw 6 speed manual transmission and a pony or two.

Nothing surprises us when it comes to Honda

Looking to the media launch of 2016 Civic Coupe in February, I wouldn’t be surprised if Honda drops a Civic Si preview bomb at the event. Torque News will keep you posted here.


Patrick (not verified)    January 18, 2016 - 1:11PM

Hi Parks,
Actually the 2.0T engine is manufactured at Honda's Anna, Ohio engine plant and is exported to the UK for the Civic Type R.

Eric (not verified)    January 19, 2016 - 3:29PM

The 9th gen si makes closer to 45% more power than the 1.8(143 hp). It does make 30% more than the new 2.0 (158 hp * 1.3 = 205.4)

Kent (not verified)    March 7, 2016 - 7:57PM

The Si is coming. But the issue is two-fold:
1. Development on the 2.0T specific to the Si was sidelined in favor of accelerated development of the 1.5T (a full 2 years ahead of its planned launch with the 2018 Accord and 2019 Civic mid model refresh, as quoted by lead engineers during LA Auto Show).
2. The Si's 2.0T is not simply a detuned version of the the CTR. Hardware is expected optimized for fuel efficiency over performance, from the valvetrain to the internals.

Hondaddy (not verified)    June 10, 2016 - 11:00AM

In reply to by HondaPro (not verified)

This doesn't surprise me. Honda dances to the beat of it's own drummer. They know the bulk of their sales are geared to people buying solid transportation. Somehow, enthusiasts got kicked to the curb here. My wife is due for a new ride. The absence of the Si model will make her go elsewhere.

Christopher (not verified)    June 23, 2016 - 6:23PM

I put purchased the last model year 2015 Honda si. Fully loaded. Is the value now worth more due to no new si's for the near future???