Imagine this: you just bought a brand new 2024 Toyota Tundra truck, and are excited to enjoy it for years to come. Then, at a mere 7,000 miles, the engine lets out a spectacular cough and dies. That's the gut-wrenching scenario facing one truck driver, who posted his story and the accompanying image on 2022+ Toyota Tundra Owners Facebook group seeking advice from fellow Tundra owners.
This owner and the local Toyota dealership are now navigating the world of warranties, repairs, and the agonizing question: will my car ever be the same? Join the conversation as we explore this owner's experience, offering advice and support for anyone who's ever faced a major car malfunction. What do you think he should do?
Thought I was safe buying a 2024 but I was not. Pretty certain the engine blew at a little over 7,000 miles. Had it towed to the dealership who said they will be pulling/disassembling the engine over the next few days to determine what happened. They said it should be under warranty (it better) but they will need to open a case with Toyota and have them approve it.
Has anyone attempted to have Toyota replace a truck with a blown engine? (Not the engine, but give you a brand new truck). I was planning on having this truck for 10-15 years. Have a feeling the truck will never be the same after they completely replace the engine. Trying to decide if I want to immediately push the idea that I need a new truck or see how the repair plays out.
That's what C.W. posted in a group, asking for advice. The conversation has already generated 282 comments by the time of this writing. What would you tell him?
I believe in order to replace a brand new vehicle you have to see if it qualifies for the Lemon law. So, I would say check your state's lemon laws. Car manufacturers are generally hesitant to do any sort of buybacks unless lemon law requirements are met which can be very difficult to meet depending on the state you are in.
C.W. says, he checked the Lemon laws of his state and it’s 30 days in the shop for the same issue in the first two years or an unsuccessful attempt to repair the same issue 3 times. "I think it’ll be tough for them to replace it in 30 days, so there may be a chance there."
On the other hand, as one commenter notes it we are not sure why it wouldn't be a warranty issue. "Technically the first oil change isn't due until 10k. So it's not going to be a maintenance issue. Engine or transmission replacement or brake failure typically are covered under Lemon laws. I am on my 4th Tundra but in my opinion you need to pursue the lemon law. You should have received a paper when you bought the truck. The truck won't retain its value when someone reads engine replacement on a carfax," writes a user, named Sam Haley.
Another option would be to sell the truck back to Toyota. These types of engine failures are rare, but they do happen.
A group member who claims to be an engine expert thinks Toyota isn't going to give a new truck in this case. "The idea that the truck will never be the same is an inaccurate one. We do engine jobs all the time and the customers keep the vehicles near forever after that due to the investment. We actually put a used engine in a 4Runner years ago for a customer, then bought the 4Runner after it was totaled, then pulled that engine, supercharged it, and put it in a 4Runner owned by a family member of our owner. That engine is in its 3rd 4Runner in its life, and tows a boat every weekend while being force fed," he wrote.
Speaking of the new 4Runner, you may want to see our ranking of 2024 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro Terra vs Tundra, Tacoma and Sequoia.
Ryan Johnson writes, "I talked to an engineer for Honda today. He’s been an engineer in the automotive industry for 30 years. He said this is literally happening in every single auto manufacturer out there, including Honda."
There are many avenues that can be pursued in this case, but besides looking at the lemon laws and possibly selling the truck back to Toyota, I think I would request Toyota to install a crate engine, with all new components, not try and reuse the heads, turbos, and all of the things they don’t normally replace.
What do you think in this case? What advice would you give to this Tundra owner? Please, click on the red link below to add your comment and join the discussion.
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You are right!
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In reply to Toyota dropped the ball by… by BigBird 57 (not verified)
You are right!
Verify and Let them put a…
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Verify and Let them put a new crate engine in it .
It will have the same warranty as new. And just enjoy your new truck. I don't think a factory replacement engine will hurt the value of your truck.
After a few years, just trade it in if your still not happy at the same dealership if possible.
Had a new 22 tundra got rid…
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Had a new 22 tundra got rid of it too many recalls
My advice is to pursue a…
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My advice is to pursue a buyback from Toyota. The repair would likely show up on Carfax, impacting the future value of your vehicle. I had a 2022 tundra 1794 edition. After about six months, I became so frustrated with it that I traded it on a 10 year old Land Cruiser. A much better choice for my situation.
Get a new truck. It will…
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Get a new truck. It will never be the same!
I bought a truck that I…
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I bought a truck that I ordered in 1983. A GMC Jimmy 4 wheel drive. It lasted under 200 miles. GMC wanted to repair the engine so I hired a lawyer and 12 hours later I was in the dealership ordering a new truck that was built in Pontiac Michigan. They called me every two weeks with updates. It lasted 26,000 miles before it literally came apart. I have purchased 12 or 15 vehicles since and not one was a GMC and I’ll never own one. Neither will my adult children and maybe my grandchildren. It was a BAD experience from the onset and kissing my butt didn’t help after they tried to rip me off first thing. Two Tundras is all I’ve driven the last 24 years.
Keep the truck but go with…
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Keep the truck but go with the "crate engine".... make sure that the remaining warranty cover the new engine in addition to whatever warranty comes with the crate engine
Toyota’s are not what they…
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Toyota’s are not what they used to be.
Talk to your dealer, ask…
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Talk to your dealer, ask them to simply trade it in for a new one, most dealer will not have an issue doing this
Yes, I would definitely…
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Yes, I would definitely insist on the crate motor. Depending on the catastrophic failure of a part in the engine, microscope pieces may have circulated to oil galleries. This would never be cleaned out enough in a block swap. Dealer gets paid piece work for a warranty repair, the faster they do it the more they profit.
If the truck is under 12000…
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If the truck is under 12000 miles and less then a year and no modafcation , then he’s %100 coved even if It’s his wiper blade. Lemon law has nothing to do with this. New engine or transmission or whatever needs should be 0 out of pocket
I have a 2022 Toyota tundra…
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I have a 2022 Toyota tundra my engine blew up at 37,000km's last July. They found there was a failure in the connecting crank rod bearing. They decided they were going to rebuild the small block & I didn't get it back until the end of December.. Since getting it back I have had it back to the dealership twice because my truck is losing oil(burning it) I am putting 6 liters every 4,000km's. Now they believe it's getting blow by from the top end at the valve seals. I asked them if they were going to replace now instead but no such luck.
Buy a new Tacoma, at least…
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Buy a new Tacoma, at least they did the front end right on it and didnt make it look like the ugly Tundra front end, hard to get past that design gaff!!
My 2022 Tundra Capstone blew…
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My 2022 Tundra Capstone blew at 25600 after 19 mos. of ownership. 60 days in the shop. I will say it drives better now than before. Only excuse I got was “multiple, critical engine part failures. LemonLaw only applies in my state if under 24 mos and 24000 miles. STRIKE ONE. I asked anyway and they denied me a replacement. That case is over and since they only do one at a time, I am now asking for my two payments made without a truck back. Since I went through Toyota Financ I have to go through them instead of the Toyota Brand Engagement Team on this next issue. I am calling Finance tomorrow as I want
The residual value of my lease reduced. It was based on a level of reliability/resale that these vehicles aren’t showing due to manufacturing defects. My truck has decreased in value close to $30k in my 21 months of ownership. We’ll see but I think it will be STRIKE TWO and STRIKE THREE with Toyota.
Push for a new engine with…
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Push for a new engine with all new components. Something in the original components could've caused the original engine to go bad.
I brought a 2023 platinum…
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I brought a 2023 platinum and was sold on the fact that I would be getting 19 city and 22 highway. I am only getting 15 at best on highway. I do a lot of highway driving, it’s not even a year old and I have 27k miles. The paint on the front grill is also chipping and Toyota only replaced one side of the front grill panel, they said that it is highway driving that caused the chips. I asked them why did the paint not chip off then? They haven’t answered yet. The service person called and said that the moment they put my truck on the lift the check engine light came on and suggested that someone may have hit the vehicle… I was appalled. It’s always parked in my driveway and anywhere I go I keep it safe. They had to swap out the front air intake panel as it would not close when the vehicle didn’t call for air. I just think they are going to mess things up and I can’t wait to lawyer up
I would want a new truck I…
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I would want a new truck I feel like it want be the same as if it came from the factory I also feel like they would take short cuts mean they want put everything back in the truck brand new like you bought it
After reading the comments…
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After reading the comments about the 4 and 6 cylinder engines, I think I'll keep my '88 F-250 7.3 IDI Diesel with 235,000 miles.
Toyota is just replacing…
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Toyota is just replacing short blocks not entire engines. So your new truck has an engine assembled by your local dealer. That will lead to one off Frankenstein installs depending on if your dealer gives a crap or not
As someone who has…
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As someone who has successfully settled a lemon law case I can say it may not be the best option as they will generally low ball you and probably only offer half the value of the vehicle. In my case they paid me $12k but let me keep the car which I then sold afterwards.
Don't give them a chance.I…
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Don't give them a chance.I have sued kia for a defective engine and issues since we bought the vehicle; they will drag the issue until you pass the warranty, and won't get nothing.
At only 7k miles it's still…
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At only 7k miles it's still considered new to any respectable manufacturer. Unless he drove it through deep water this is absolutely covered under warranty.
I have a 06 tundra with 660…
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I have a 06 tundra with 660,000 Miles on it never skipped a beat best truck I've ever owned
As I've said a million times…
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In reply to I have a 06 tundra with 660… by Peter McAllister (not verified)
As I've said a million times, they are ether great, or garbage. It's luck of the draw. Also, an 06 is a way better truck than anything they've built in the last decade.
My son bought a brand new…
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My son bought a brand new 2014 Tundra and his engine blew up at almost 400 kilometers. He brought it in three times because it was making clicking, slapping, and knocking noises. The Toyota dealer here in the Sault said the slapping noise would stop once the engine warmed up. The dealer said, "The slapping noise was due to Toyota using "racing pistons" in their V8 engines... He wanted a new truck and didn't get one. The dealer tore down the engine, and supposedly had to wait for Toyota in Japan to approve only an engine replacement, and the "special order V8 supposedly came straight from Japan" and was the reason it took 3 months for the engine to arrive in 🇨🇦 🍁 Canada.
I would try having the Truck…
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I would try having the Truck Replaced. If not then a NEW Engine. Not a repaired Engine
If they won't buy back then…
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If they won't buy back then definitely a new crate engine! Depending on type of failure the heads could be comprised.
I would definitely talk to…
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I would definitely talk to general manager of dealership and ask him to make things right and put himself in your position. We aren't talking about a replaced windshield, tires but rather the main component of a vehicle being the engine. I liken it to a person having a triple bypass. No doubt it's a very serious surgery and one that most people aren't the same after because their will always be restrictions and sometimes side affects you can't avoid because of the seriousness dealing with a main of component of the body which is the heart. In a similar sense it's the same with an engine of a vehicle and mind you, a brand new engine at that. I've owned 3 Toyota Camrys starting in 2009. My very first Camry, when I would drive on freeway, I would hear wind noise coming into cab through front windshield. I took it back with 10 thousand miles and they said they were going to have to replace windshield due because it wasn't installed right at factory. I just couldn't believe that being a brand new car, they were having to replace front windshield. I went to talk to General manager and told him I didn't want my car because if that's what they were going to have to replace now, what's not to say that in another 3 months or more something else goes wrong. He agreed and bought back my vehicle for what I payed and got me in a brand new one. If they did that for a windshield, I know they would definitely do it for an engine major problem!
My dad had experience with a…
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My dad had experience with a 17 tacoma with rear diff howl right out off the lot, was like pulling teeth to get a new truck from toyota. In this case most likely would not get a refund or a trade for new truck especially with supply of vehicles right now. You're best bet to to get the top of the line 200k ecp and ride the warranty train then trade it in a couple years from now on one they have hopefully fixed the issue. I really want to get one but being a toyota tech ive seen lots of turbo waste gates seizing, no engines yet but i hear other dealers doing them like crazy. Ill be kepping my 20 taco for a few more years i think until the issues are resolved
they have to see if toyota…
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they have to see if toyota approves the warranty? an approved warranty came with the purchase if I'm not mistaken. I have owned several toyota vehicles I purchased new and never took any in for warranty work. Never had a problem. currently driving daily a toyota over 20 years old. I believe they no longer produce the reliability and longevity they have been known for. reminds me of the lawnmower engine designs of today. troublesome and you can depend on them to give trouble from day one.
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