David, a Cybertruck owner from Virginia, says he loves driving his Cybertruck, but Tesla is punishing him for choosing to drive it manually instead of relying on the truck’s full self-driving software.
David has signed up for Tesla Insurance, which utilizes multiple real-time driving inputs to determine the monthly coverage cost for each Tesla Insurance customer.
Tesla primarily penalizes drivers for two habits: driving manually instead of using FSD software and driving at night.
Regrettably, David says he often enjoys driving at night, and when he’s out for a drive, he prefers to do the actual driving himself, finding it boring to just sit with his hands on his thighs.
Ironically, David is being penalized with a higher insurance premium because he loves his Cybertruck and enjoys driving it.
To continue driving his Cybertruck manually while still securing a good insurance premium, David is considering dropping his Tesla insurance coverage and switching to another provider.
However, if he goes ahead and changes insurance providers, David is worried that he might not receive the same integrated service he got when he was using Tesla Insurance.
The conflicted Cybertruck owner shared his story on the Cybertruck Owners Club forum.
He writes…
“Share Your Experience with Non-Tesla Insurance Claims
TLDR: I’m thinking about switching from Tesla Insurance because I’m unhappy with its driver score system, which penalizes my preferred driving styles like night driving and manual control over FSD.
I would like to hear from other Cybertruck owners about their experiences with non-Tesla insurers (e.g., Progressive, GEICO, USAA), especially regarding accident claims, OEM parts usage, and how easy it is to schedule repairs at Tesla centers compared to other repair shops.
Tesla insurance offers a more streamlined process after an accident. However, I’m curious about what others have experienced with non-Tesla providers such as Progressive, GEICO, and USAA.
I’m considering switching because of the driver profile and scoring system. I drive mostly at night and enjoy driving my truck—it seems like if you drive it, you enjoy it.
Keeping my score in the 90s is tough, and I’m not a bad driver. Since I paid for this vehicle, I want to drive it the way I like.
I’d probably get the 10% discount if I enable FSD, but honestly, I mostly use active cruise control and enjoy keeping my hands on the wheel and steering. Sitting with my hands in my lap feels kind of boring.
Have you filed a claim with these other companies? How did it go? I know there’s already a thread on quotes from other insurance companies, but I'd like to start a separate thread about actual accident claims involving the vehicle.
Are they using OEM parts? Is it difficult to schedule an appointment at a Tesla repair center through these providers, or do you need to visit a different shop?
I’m not sure if Tesla repair centers only serve Tesla insurance customers.”
David appreciates the vertical integration that comes with his insurance provider being the same as his vehicle manufacturer.
However, because David really enjoys driving his Cybertruck, he can’t use Tesla insurance.
This is definitely an unexpected paradox, but one thing David should keep in mind is that switching to another insurance provider, especially while driving a Cybertruck, might not be a good idea.
Last year, we broke the news that GEICO was terminating some Cybertruck insurance policies under the company’s personal vehicle category.
Tesla Cybertruck owners can still obtain coverage through GEICO’s commercial vehicle program, but this typically incurs higher costs.
Besides GEICO, several other insurance providers have also canceled policies specifically for the Cybertruck over the past few months.
Some mention the truck’s unusual design, others cite high repair costs, and some point to the truck’s low production numbers as reasons not to cover the Cybertruck.
Considering the unfavorable perception of the Cybertruck by insurance companies, David might find it wiser to stick with Tesla, even if it means paying a higher premium for driving manually.
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For more information, check out: A Brand-New Tesla Cybertruck Owner Says Everything on the Left Side of His Truck Stopped Working Less Than 24 Hours After He Bought it – Adds, “The Passenger Side Doors, Windows & Lights Don’t Work”
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Tesla has extensive data…
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Tesla has extensive data gathered from driving habits of the owners of its many vehicles, whether FSD is in use or not. Statistically it clearly indicates that manually driven vehicles are more frequently involved in accidents - thereby the higher insurance premium. I predict that the time will soon arrive when insurance premiums for manually driven vehicles will become unaffordable - especially for younger drivers.
It’s not uncommon for…
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It’s not uncommon for insurance companies to base their rates on statistics.
Tesla zone in-house study has shown that you are 10 times safer using auto pilot than human driving so sure you should get a discount for using it should be no argument there
I have State Farm and I get a discount for allowing a device to be in my car that measures my driving skill. I get lower rates because I don’t speed corner to abruptly slam on the brakes or text while driving.
It’s not only fair, it’s a great way to save money and stay safe at the same time.
No one stopping him from driving the truck himself all the time, and I’m sure the difference in payments is not that extreme
He’s not being punished for not using self driving, but rather he’s ignoring the rewards for driving under known and safer conditions.
This article is obviously a hit piece, but I’m glad it’s there because it lets consumer see the negative publicity campaigns that are aimed at Tesla, and particularly Elon Musk simply because he states what he truly believes, he’s a no BS kind of guy he’s all data and no noise.
So while you’re calling him “Hitler”, a “fascist” or writing hit pieces about his car, you’re having the opposite effect.
This is yet another reason to own the stock and to believe in Elon Musk because 10 years from now, no one’s gonna remember all this BS, but they sure are going to remember him most likely sitting on Mars, leading the world into innovation like we’ve never seen before.
As for the rest of you, you know what you can do.
Just say your a tesla fanboy…
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In reply to It’s not uncommon for… by Dave Rand (not verified)
Just say your a tesla fanboy and cant take when others dont like elon or call him out on his bs, dude. You didnt need all these words to say that
How's the koolade taste? You…
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In reply to It’s not uncommon for… by Dave Rand (not verified)
How's the koolade taste? You wanna ignore all the lawsuits related to FSD just this year? Or the declining sales, or how the Juniper Y is a flop, because all it is is a Temu Cybertruck light bar on the same Model Y as last year? Tesla isn't the leader anymore. Even in Europe they faulter.
Dave everything you said was…
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In reply to It’s not uncommon for… by Dave Rand (not verified)
Dave everything you said was true right up until you assume "EVERYONE" 'cough, cough' like most of those federal employees that were axed by Elon and it came back the so called data was no where close to what they were reporting to have saved the government. Like $8 BILLION that later was found to be a savings of ONLY $8 MILLION.
On SOME YES! I agreed, it had to happen, too much repetition. But they were just swinging for the fences like they weren't impacting peoples lives.
And then the federal employees that had to be re-hired due to Elon and his teams incompetence, the United States was being mocked and made fun of endlessly due to some of this. The other reason was the way Trump and Elon were in one another's assets.
So Dave, DON'T EVER ASSUME! Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean others will. I was ALL in on Elon, Cybertruck hate it honestly, only thing I didn't really like, well and he's creating a lot of new "space junk" with Starlink, but that's here nor there. I sir, will always remember the BS with Trump and the federal employees. Elon doesn't seem very grateful to the United States government for everything they've done for him and his companies the past 20 years. So I'm beginning to think Elon has become a little smug from where he stands and someone needs to knock him down a peg. I see your position, now you see mine. Thanks, Dave cheers!
Another cool-aid drinker. …
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In reply to It’s not uncommon for… by Dave Rand (not verified)
Another cool-aid drinker. And no, musk will never make it to mars, unless it's his ashes.
Sad you all don't see it…
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In reply to It’s not uncommon for… by Dave Rand (not verified)
Sad you all don't see it......the car is not yours and they're watching you! Can't drive at night???? No car wash??? And yet you still continue to claim it's a good. Don't know what you all have been smoking, clearly clouding your judgement.
Yeah it's a fluff piece and…
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In reply to It’s not uncommon for… by Dave Rand (not verified)
Yeah it's a fluff piece and all insurance companies have been doing this since the dawn of insurance companies, but Musk is still an idiot, the robotaxi saga is a hilarious piece of entertainment, watching Tesla trying to force FSD to work as a level 4 system, telling everyone it's a level 4 system today, and failing. This just isn't an example of it.
I take issue with you saying…
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In reply to It’s not uncommon for… by Dave Rand (not verified)
I take issue with you saying your State Farm device is fair. This device is clueless about your actual driving as it has no situational awareness and just measures a statistic. If a kid runs out in front of you and you hit the brakes quickly, you get penalized. If you just run the kid over and keep it smooth you would not. This is neither good nor fair.
If somebody in front of you is driving recklessly swerving etc, you give a little gas to get around them quickly so that the threat is behind you, once again penalized.
You stay with the flow of traffic on the interstate which is going 15 mph faster than the speed limit, once again penalized. We all know it's dangerous for one person to be going a lot slower than traffic, but State Farm don't care.
Your partner pick up your phone, wants to do something on it maybe play a game or really whatever, penalized.
The state farm system is one of the worst I've ever seen, I've been driving for 22 years and only been in a wreck once when someone pulled into me when I was already in a turning lane LOL. According to State Farm though I'm a piece of crap driver. Their system is severely flawed.
Obviously neither computers…
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In reply to It’s not uncommon for… by Dave Rand (not verified)
Obviously neither computers not people are perfect but when you purchase something, it should be yours! You should be able to drive it all by yourself.
As far as Musk making it to Mars, if you actually believe that, then go with him. Science has described a number of problems with this " Pie in the sky thinking."
The most recent is maintaining kidney health for long distance space travel.
There are several factors listed that require much more advanced technology. But hey! I despise this man, if he doesn't survive, who cares, it is the people travelling with him that deserve better.
So you didn’t publish my…
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So you didn’t publish my last comment thanks for verifying that you’re just a hack and this is a hit piece
It's probably not a penalty…
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It's probably not a penalty but not getting the discount for using FSD which is safer than a human driver. Additionally, it's likely that another insurance carrier will be more expensive than the discount given with Tesla Insurance when using FSD.
You should be punished for…
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You should be punished for even owning a cyber truck
What's the difference?
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What's the difference?
Amazing how Tesla believes…
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Amazing how Tesla believes its software is better than a person. Until it’s proven 100%, they shouldn’t raise rates for people who prefer to drive their own vehicle.
Real title to the story. …
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Real title to the story. "Rich guy doesn't want to pay more to drive his Tesla." Is this really a story of just someone complaining.
Do you people even know what…
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Do you people even know what words mean? Ironically? No. You just said what Tesla penalizes people for and then you tell us that this guy does that and that he's being penalized. That's not irony.
You know that this is a…
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You know that this is a crock as a Tesla "Truck" Owner doesn't know how to drive "manually" let alone off pavement. 😂
He bought a cybertruck. He…
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He bought a cybertruck. He can afford it.
If he can't afford it, good. People who bought those things are nazis. Let him suffer.
White people problems
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White people problems
Musk's obsession with self…
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Musk's obsession with self driving cars completely ignores the fact that many people LIKE to drive and don't want to be a passenger in their own vehicle.
Come on dude, you're no…
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Come on dude, you're no idiot, you know your choices. Man up.
OMG!! Apparently, driving a…
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OMG!! Apparently, driving a Tesla is like living under an HOA umbrella!! ALL of you get what you DESERVE what you get when you make this life choice!! Quit whining about it!!
Easy solution drive another…
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Easy solution drive another brand of truck.
Elon Musk is probably…
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Elon Musk is probably correct in saying that accidents would be reduced under the full autonomous driving.
So ideally this should reflect in premiums.
I love driving and I completely understand what is being related.
They say that it's not the destination it's the journey so I completely understand this driver and his desire to be one with his Tesla truck. It's not always about going from point "A" to point "B".
The 10% reduction is there If you want to take advantage of it but If you love driving then you must be willing to pay the full rate and not enjoy the 10% discount.
It's the cost of driving yourself it may not be completely fair but it is on average.
If I were him I would stick with the Tesla insurance for the ease and convenience and pay the premium premium for his love of driving.
Keep the rubber side down and the stainless steel side up. Enjoy your truck be safe.
If Elon wants to pitch it a…
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In reply to Elon Musk is probably… by Todd David Vol… (not verified)
If Elon wants to pitch it a different way "no deductible or rate raises for incidents while autopilot is driving". I think people would swallow that better, just like the $10k bonus our insurance has for dying while buckled in.
I didn't get the Tesla insurance because it was way higher than GEICO.
I'm not buying an SUV that accelerates like a rocket with the intention of never using it! I've driven close to a million miles without an insurance claim (mostly at night, lots of hard acceleration and cornering) so all these tracking metrics that would throw me into the high risk pool seem to be missing something.
Elon Musk is probably…
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Elon Musk is probably correct that accidents would be reduced under full autonomous driving. Ideally, that should reflect in insurance premiums.
But I get it — driving isn’t always about going from point A to point B. For some of us, it’s the journey, the feeling of being connected to the machine. I completely understand why you’d want to drive your Cybertruck yourself.
Tesla offers a 10% reduction if you let the car do the driving. If you choose not to, then you’re not penalized — you’re just not receiving that reward. It’s the cost of loving the drive. On average, that seems fair.
If I were you, I’d stick with Tesla Insurance for the convenience, accept the higher rate, and enjoy the truck for what it is.
Keep the rubber side down and the stainless steel side up. Be safe and enjoy the ride.
He's all worried about 10%??…
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He's all worried about 10%????
So Tesla sells us Full Self…
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So Tesla sells us Full Self Driving but doesnt stand by their product. When you buy it, it should be guaranteed to work. If it doesnt and it crashes why isn't Tesla responsible? Why should I need any insurance on self driving cars? They're the ones advertising self driving and should be automatically responsible if it doesnt work correctly and crashes.
Viewing this as penalization…
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Viewing this as penalization ignores the very nature of usage-based insurance -- namely, premium is based on how the vehicle is driven. It has nothing to do with who the driver is or what their preferences are. You could just as easily state that Tesla insurance rewards Cybertruck owners who use FSD by lowering their premiums for taking advantage of convenient vehicle features, and have even written a whole article with that narrative. But in reality it's neither about reward nor penalty. It's about correctly pricing insurance risk based on how the vehicle is driven. Tesla has had to demonstrate to the state insurance regulator that lower premiums are appropriate when FSD is used by showing it is statistically correlated with lower accident frequency or severity. Conversely, when the risk is demonstrated to be higher, the vehicle premium must go up. The objectively unfair thing here would be for Tesla to have ignored this risk correlation and kept the higher premium even when FSD is enabled. Moreover, the fact that Tesla insurance has identified and demonstrated to regulators that premiums can vary based on the use of FSD means they've identified a simple way for the average driver to be objectively safer -- use FSD. What an easy thing to communicate to customers.
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