My car is ten years old, I'm making six figures, and I refuse to pay for something I don't need.
Those are Michael Rusli's (@michael.rusli) sentiments, which he shares with others who are willing to listen. I found his interesting post while browsing the Honda CR-V information. He owns a 2015 Honda CR-V, and he couldn't be happier.
He says,
"I had an older Honda CR-V, sold that for a profit, and got another CR-V with that same money; if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Michael is a financial wealth management advisor who is wiser than his years. He's a Millennial who "practices what he preaches." He lives a no-car-payment life and keeps his paid-off Honda CR-V as long as possible.
He proudly states, "I'm driving a paid-off ten-year-old car because it costs nothing to run, and who wants a $500 per month car payment?"
Michael's financial freedom and control over his expenses are things he wouldn't trade for the world. This sense of empowerment is a key benefit of driving a paid-off car.
Most people want to drive a new car with the latest features and new technology, but it comes at a steep price. You have a large car payment, higher maintenance costs, license plates, taxes, and insurance. Here is why Michael's statement makes sense.
How Much Is the Average Car Payment?
Michael asks why he would want a $500 car payment. However, according to a report from Bankrate, as of February 2025, the average monthly car payment for a new car is $737, and the average for a used car is $520.
So, if Michael were to trade in his 2015 Honda CR-V for a new one, he'd have a $700 car payment, not $500 unless he buys another used car. But why should he do that when his CR-V is running well? Driving a paid-off car keeps you from being tied to a hefty monthly car payment and frees up money for other things.
Experian says 43% percent of vehicles financed in the third quarter of 2024 were new vehicles. Financing for used vehicles sat at 57.04 percent in the same quarter.
Experian says,
Of consumers purchasing new vehicles in 2024, 80.28 percent chose to finance their vehicle
- The average cost of full coverage car insurance is about $220 per month.
- New loan amounts increased slightly, year over year, in the third quarter, from $40,332 in 2023 to $41,068 in 2024.
- A 2025 Honda Sport Touring Hybrid costs $41,100 without manufacturer handling and delivery fees. So, Michael would potentially have a $900 per month car outlay, including full coverage insurance.
Bankrate says you can lower your payment by going with a longer-term loan, like 72 months, but then six years is a long time to be locked into a vehicle.
Key Points to Consider:
Depreciation: New cars lose a significant portion of their value as soon as you drive them off the lot, while used cars have already gone through most of their depreciation, meaning you're not losing as much money over time.
No car payment: When your car is paid off, you can significantly improve your budget and financial flexibility.
Potential for lower insurance costs: Depending on the car model and your insurance provider, an older car will have lower insurance premiums.
Imagine This Scenario
Many Millennials would like to buy new condo or townhouse instead of renting but do not have the financial resources to do so. You could save about $11,000 a year towards a down payment without a car payment.
So, you drive your ten-year-old car, and in three years, you would have $33,000, enough to get into a starter home. You are building equity instead of driving a new car that goes down in value.
Reddit user herrniemand gives this good advice.
"If you don't have a car payment, think of what you can do with all that extra money per month! It's basically like getting a raise! It might even be tempting to start new car shopping, to take advantage of high used car prices, and trade in your car while it's still worth something. You can get into something nice for the same or even lower payment than before."
"Don't do it," he says.
"Instead, use this as a perfect opportunity to save money since most of us don't save enough. After all, you've been managing without that extra monthly money for the past few years (if you haven't, then obviously use it to pay off any other debts first), so it should be relatively painless to stash it away rather than spend it. If you can set up an automatic paycheck deduction so you never even see it, that would be even better."
He finishes by saying, "It's almost always better to keep driving a paid-off car for as long as it's in decent shape, and don't underestimate the luxury of savings vs. debt."
Check Out Some of the Comments
johnlee7431 - 10 yrs is not old, my 2000 Accord is still running good with 350k miles.
Jay L. Henry - That's how we retired in our 50s.
shelgen - My husband and I both make six figures. He drives an '08, and I have a '09. Never waste money on things that don't add value. After 30 years so far in Corporate America, you want to start saving young because you'll want out as soon as you can.
Dan Skott - You can put $500 in the bank each month, so when you need a new car, you'll have most of it saved. In those 10 years, you'd have 60k plus with compounded interest.
Leo - I have a 2004 Sienna; it's paid off and gets me from point A to point B. My banker told me I qualify for a car loan of 100k with a payment of 1700. No, I'll invest it in another rental property in Waco or Concord.
Final Thoughts and Questions for You
Think of a car as transportation, not a status symbol. If you make lots of money, buy and enjoy a new car. But many Americans are not wealthy. If you live now without a car payment, you'll be able to live later and have an envious lifestyle.
How About You?
Do you drive a paid-off car? If so, click the red Add New Comment link below and tell us about your experience.
Check out my new car story titled; So, I Bought a New Lexus RX 350 Just to Get the 360 Camera, Now I Have a $770 Car Payment, and I’m Wondering If it Was Worth It
I am Denis Flierl, a Senior Torque News Reporter since 2012. My 30+ year tenure in the automotive industry, initially in a consulting role with every major car brand and later as a freelance journalist test-driving new vehicles, has equipped me with a wealth of knowledge. I specialize in reporting the latest automotive news and providing expert analysis on Subaru, which you'll find here, ensuring that you, as a reader, are always well-informed and up-to-date. Follow me on my X SubaruReport, All Subaru, WRXSTI, @DenisFlierl, Facebook, and Instagram.
Photo credit: Denis Flierl via Michael Rusli
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Seems like a good plan. When…
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Seems like a good plan. When you do opt to look for a new(er) vehicle, consider an EV lease. If you shop around, the deals that can be found are incredible.
Buy a used C or E class…
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Buy a used C or E class Mercedes. They lose 50% of their value in five years, another 25% in five more. These cars are usually very well taken care of, garaged, dealer serviced. I bought a ten year old CLK-350 convertible with 60,000 miles on it for $15K - less than 25 cents on the dollar. Looks and runs like new.
I had a 2001 Honda CRV that…
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I had a 2001 Honda CRV that lasted over 300,000 miles, I sold it in 2014!! Now I’m driving a 2014 CRV and 15 years later its still in perfect condition.
Hondas are built to last!
We had a 1997 CRV until 2022…
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In reply to I had a 2001 Honda CRV that… by ANN (not verified)
We had a 1997 CRV until 2022 and a FedEx truck totaled it. I would have kept it until it didn’t drive any more! Now I have a 7 year old Acura RDX that I love and hope to keep for 20 years!
I agree with you, however…
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In reply to I had a 2001 Honda CRV that… by ANN (not verified)
I agree with you, however you may be writing from the future as 2014+15=2029
What about the paint issues…
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What about the paint issues with older Hondas? I had a 2009 Crv that I loved, but for the patches of paint missing for no good reason.
No callbacks on that.
There is no recall because…
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In reply to What about the paint issues… by Michael Medrick (not verified)
There is no recall because just about any car that is 10+ years old will have degradation on its paint. Especially if-
1. It catches a good amount of sunlight.
2. The owner doesn't wax the car, at least twice a year.
3. You live in an area that experiences acid rain.
Gets 26 MPG combined. At 13…
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Gets 26 MPG combined. At 13,500 miles/yr and $3 gas that's $130/mo in gas. Budget $100/mo for long-term maintenance that's $230/mo. You can lease a brand new Tesla Model 3 for $266 after taxes and $29/mo in fuel - nowhere NEAR $500/mo (Model Y is only $50/mo more). The $165/mo difference is cheap insurance too AND keeps you in a brand new car where you're pretty much guaranteed no maintenance other than cabin filters and wiper blades.
Well your math is weird. …
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In reply to Gets 26 MPG combined. At 13… by Bobbie Stump (not verified)
Well your math is weird.
Fine for the CRV and yeah, a lease for a Model 3 is about that much monthly BUT you forgot about the 4k or so dollars you need to pay to get that lease.
Let's also not forget that since Tesla owns the car you must have full coverage on your auto insurance and that new cars are more expensive than an 10 year old car regardless + BEVs are more expensive to insure in general as well.
And if something happens to that leased car...regardless of make...you're gonna eat that damage as they will charge you for it.
Your cost to charge also assumes some very cheap electricity rates and a garage to park and charge in vs public chargers. To be fair your price for gas per gallon is also low.
17 RDX bought in Feb 20 with…
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17 RDX bought in Feb 20 with 30K miles. Next month is last payment, now has 65K miles. At 7000 miles per year, 20 mpg, 350 gal/yr. $1400/yr at $4/gal. $120/mo for gas. I’m keeping it.
Our 2014 Honda CR-V with…
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Our 2014 Honda CR-V with regular maintenance has been a great vehicle. No car payments means that money can be put to other uses. I cannot abide the asking prices for new cars. We'll be driving our Honda for the foreseeable future.
"Live within your Means"…
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"Live within your Means"....I drive a 2014 Rav4 with 120,000 miles..I own a home now in Central Arizona..I know people who rent with a goal to always conserve money wisely...Be a leader rather than the followers.....
I have an '05 Pilot that I…
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I have an '05 Pilot that I love upgraded with remote start and Android Auto, that's now plagued with frame rust. I found this out AFTER putting in $1800 worth of maintenance, to keep the car another 5 years. Sometimes it's just not worth maintaining an older vehicle. You end up paying more in the long run.
I have 2 vehicles. A 2006…
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I have 2 vehicles. A 2006 Ford cargo van and a 2011 Honda Pilot. Both are in great shape and long paid for. I plan on keeping them for a lot longer. Not interested in spending 50k to replace either one of them.
We drive a 2009 Honda Fit…
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We drive a 2009 Honda Fit which we bought used for $CDN 9,000 at 3 years old and 29,000 km on the clock. It now has 152,000 KM (95,000 mi), it continues to run great and aside from replacing the AC compressor last summer it costs us only gas and oil changes. It gets us everywhere at an actual average of 7.3 liters per 100km, and now we’re retired, it should be fine for many years to come. Much as we would like a Subaru Outback, it’s a want, not a need, and if we were to buy one it would be run until we or it is dead.
I’m also a Fit owner (2013 w…
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In reply to We drive a 2009 Honda Fit… by Hal (not verified)
I’m also a Fit owner (2013 w/125k miles). It’s been an amazing car. Maintenance is cheap, it’s great on gas, has really amazing cargo space for its class. I have actually car camped in it multiple times!
I sometimes wish I had an SUV, but it’s hard to justify to expense.
Keep your cars as long as…
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Keep your cars as long as possible. I have a 1999 4runner and my wife has a 2006 accord. The 4runner has costly repairs though mechanically is in good shape. Ditto for the accord. So, rather than spending increasing amounts to fix both we bought two to 25 Subarus, first time in our lives we financed. Stayed away from all the extended packages which would add about $10k. Was planning to buy a Honda crv but the dealer conducted a credit check without our signed permission, Honda World in Louisville, and went silent when I demanded an explanation. Happy with our choice of Subaru and if any of you folks out there need a great used Subaru in 5-10 years let me know....by then I might still be driving and will have learned to use all the unnecessary gadgets that distract you from the basic idea of keeping your eyes on the road.
I have both an 09 Focus with…
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I have an 09 Focus with 63K miles and an 09 Prius with 253K miles. Both are paid off and running strong as ever.
My CRV is 18 years old, has…
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My CRV is 18 years old, has 220000miles on it and still runs great. When I bought it the dealer gave me a lifetime power train warranty which I have yet to use. That car is amazing
I drive a 2007 honda pilot…
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I drive a 2007 honda pilot everyone telling me to upgrade but I don't want to pay a car not i would rather invest in the car I have til it can't run no more
I have 2 paid off vehicles…
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I have 2 paid off vehicles...a 2006 Acura and a 2016 Kia. I purchased both used and have owned the Acura since 2007. I love not having car payments and saving money! I can afford to purchase a newer car if I like, but I don't want the payment. I have paid off all consumer debt, minus my mortgage, and I am financially free for the first time in a long time.
You are absolutely right…
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You are absolutely right. Why go into debt just so you can have the latest and greatest in luxury. If your car is paid for, put the money you would spend on a new car into savings that you can later live off. I'm not saying don't buy it if you can, but most of us are not in that boat. By the way, I make plenty of money but choose to drive my 2007, yes 2007, Honda CRV with 371,000 miles!
Exactly! We are retired…
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In reply to You are absolutely right… by Gary Castillo (not verified)
Exactly! We are retired. Have access to a six figure earned pension per month and drive a 2008 Toyota and 2013 Ford Hybrid. We are comfortable. Travel whenever we want, eat out whenever we want. This was possible because we were always value driven. What value is there in buying a new car that loses a third of its value when you drive away from the lot? We also bought a used 2013 Mercedes motor home at about half the original cost. Now we’re free to travel by both land and air whenever we please.
zero is not the true cost…
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zero is not the true cost after paid off the car.
The true cost is repair cost divided by number of months you continue to pay.
if repair is low, then your average cost will be low.
But at some point everything will break and your cost will skyrocket to keep going and will could be over the 500 a month average...it will not just be parts but also labor, while your new car is fix rate.
So keep going till big ticket item breaks is the way to go.
Vehicles are only good for 7…
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Vehicles are only good for 7 to 10 years here where the roads are salted. They rot away.
I agree with keeping your…
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I agree with keeping your car as long as possible. Sadly, three months ago, someone ran a red light and totaled my car. The insurance gave me less than I believe it was worth. I had kept up with the maintenance and took good care of that car and it only had 80,000 miles on it. It was 10 years old, but the interior looked practically new. All it needed was a new paint job as it had faded a bit in some areas. It was a Mazda 6 grand touring so it had a lot of features I can’t even afford to buy now. Also, the Mazda 6 isn’t even available in North America now. It’s unfortunate that someone’s reckless driving caused me to lose what I had planned on driving many more years. I will probably never own a car that nice again as the car prices now just make it prohibitive, especially at my age. But beware, if someone does hit you, likely the insurance will want to total it out, claiming it’s not worth much because it’s 10 years old so if you keep putting money into the car to maintain it, you’ve basically lost your money.
Friend of mine put a car…
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Friend of mine put a car payment worth of money into a savings account for all of the years after his car was paid off. That way when it dies he was able to pay cash for a new CR-V. If you put the money into a high yield savings account it can make a decent return. Or you could put it into an investment account with a little more risk and potentially higher return
I would never drive a 10…
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I would never drive a 10-year-old vehicle as a daily driver just because of reliability and safety issues. On the other hand, I haven’t had a car payment for over 40 years. The trick is when you pay the car off continue to deposit the same amount in a savings account, and you’ll never need to finance another car again. I get a new vehicle every 2 to 3 years, trade in the old one pay cash for the difference.
I have an 05 FX35 with…
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I have an 05 FX35 with 217000 on the clock. Still starts first time every time. All it needs is rear brakes. I'm not into status symbols I'm into enjoying life a car payment would change that. Hmmm, let's see. Do I play golf or make a car payment. You decide.
I own two paid off Toyota…
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I own two paid off Toyota Corollas, a 2004 with 170K and a 2012 with 175K. Both run like new and should last a few more years. Love not having car payments because I can now go on exotic vacations that add value to my life.
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