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Subaru Forester, Outback, Legacy No Longer Cars Most Likely to Reach 200,000 Miles

What happened to Subaru’s status as a brand with high-mileage vehicles?

Subaru was recently known as an automaker that made cars going more miles than most others, but that has changed. The Japanese automaker had all-wheel-drive cars reaching 200,000 plus miles plus and the Subaru Legacy has been known as the longest lasting sedan in America as recently as 2016. But recent studies say things are changing.

As recently as 2016, Subaru had three cars on the iSeeCars “Longest Lasting Vehicles Over 200,000 Miles” list. The Subaru Legacy was number 6, Outback number 9 and Forester number 10. In 2017 the Subaru Legacy ranked 6th on the Top 16 Longest-Lasting Cars list, Outback was 7th, and Forester ranked 8th overall.

But something changed in 2018. No Subaru vehicles ranked on the top-10 list. Not surprisingly, the list is dominated by Toyota and Honda, and Ford and Chevy also have two cars on the list.

This year iSeeCars did the study again, analyzed over 13.8 million cars sold in 2018 to determine which models have the highest percentage of cars that reached 200,000 miles. Subaru scores zero vehicles on any of the lists two years in-a-row.

The Subaru brand does not show up until number 8 on the Cars Most Likely to Reach 200,000 Miles by Make list. Subaru ranks 0.6 percent of their vehicles reaching the 200K mile mark which is below the average of all auto brands at 0.8 percent. Japanese rival Toyota ranks number one at 1.7 percent followed by Honda at 1.5 percent. American automakers GMC, Chevrolet, Ram, and Ford are also all above the average for all models.

What happened to Subaru?

Subaru of America has experienced tremendous growth over the last 10 years and with success has also come problems for the Japanese automaker. Subaru Corporation has struggled to keep their all-wheel-drive cars moving off their assembly lines in Japan without problems because of the record number of vehicles being sold in the U.S. The Japanese automaker had to shut down the Subaru plant in Gunma, Japan because of a power steering component defect in January.

2019 Subaru Forester

In 2017 Subaru was also hit with improper vehicle inspections scandal in Japan, massive global recall for a faulty engine valve spring last year, and 1.3 million vehicles recalled in the U.S. over a faulty brake light switch malfunction in March.

Dealer concerns

Last year, Subaru dealers in the U.S. expressed concern about how the Japanese automaker’s overall product line is slipping in quality. The board wrote, “Unfortunately, customers continue to have many issues with their Subarus, and the brand continues to slip in IQS and other industry metrics related to product quality. This is unacceptable and contradictory to what Subaru continues to tell the board and retailers about improvements being made thru quality initiatives.”

With its impressive growth, Subaru Corporation is having growing pains in Japan and the U.S. market. Subaru Corp has recently announced they have a new "Quality Policy" in order to realize "quality reform" which is one of the themes of the medium-term management vision "STEP" announced in July 2018. The first statement on the policy says “We will deliver products that can be used with confidence for a long time.”

Subaru Corp knows they have issues and they are making changes to fix them. Subaru customers are loyal, but they will lose confidence in the Forester, Outback, and Legacy if they don’t get it fixed soon.

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Comments

T Wright (not verified)    June 16, 2019 - 6:52PM

Subaru has not handled it's growth well. My dealer used to provide an excellent ownership experience, but it has changed. I was forced to wait over two months before the dealer would perform the Takata airbag recall service, and even then their only concern was giving me a hard sell on hundreds of dollars of questionably needed additional work.

Gennie (not verified)    June 16, 2019 - 7:18PM

This news doesn't surprise me at all. I've just gone through the worst experience ever with a vehicle and it's a 2013 Subaru Outback. I still owed three payments on it and the AT oil temp light and check engine light came on so I took it to the dealership and they told me it was a total transmission failure and because it was over 100,000 miles the cost of repairs was all on me. They offered me two options with quotes, both of which were well above what Kelly Blue Book estimates my car is currently worth. I can never trust another Subaru.

IRJ (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 12:55PM

In reply to by Gennie (not verified)

Concur with 2013 Outback. Excessive Oil consumption, Fuel gauge failure, fuel pump failure, AT OIL TEMP Flashing, headlamp impossible to replace, hatch door not closing fully and stuck at times. All these for a junk car barely just passed 110k miles. Not to mention this AWD can't even clear typical off-road driving. And CVT sucks.

Pernell D Hammond (not verified)    June 16, 2019 - 8:00PM

Pretty sad that my 2017 Impreza Sport has been in the shop more than in my garage. Just got it back 2 days ago because the transmission broke. Subaru quality has gone WAY down!

Martin Stabile (not verified)    June 16, 2019 - 8:29PM

Come on Subaru get your act together my him presents got 240 runs like new like they're supposed to I've been driving Subaru since the eighties bring it back are you going to lose customers thank you for your time

George C Reddick (not verified)    June 16, 2019 - 8:54PM

I have a 2007 Outback that has reached 129,400 mi as I write this.
Overall it has been reliable but I have been disappointed by the-
Head gasket, wheel bearing, CV joint/boot, power steering, oil consumption, and dealer service issues i’ve Experienced as an owner.

I expect that I’ll be selling before 200k and I don’t expect to be shopping for another Subaru.

Kelly Wood (not verified)    June 16, 2019 - 9:12PM

I am disgusted with the windshield quality in my 2017 Subaru Outback, as well as it not having much power.
The windshield can not withstand any little piece of sand or pebble and it cracks and breaks. Replaced for $800.00. Within 2 weeks it had another chip. Fixed that and then a small pebble caused another chip that cracked all the way across in minutes. I can't afford to replace my windshield every 3 months. The Sibaru dealership did not warranty their product. This is not my first Subaru, and the same problems with others. I will never buy one again.

Matt (not verified)    June 16, 2019 - 9:42PM

I purchased a new Subaru Legacy in 2009. It has been the most repair prone, problematic vehicle I have ever owned. At 61,000 the manual transmission needed replaced. That was just the beginning. I still have it, but I'll never buy another Subaru due to their low quality.

Dave (not verified)    June 16, 2019 - 9:52PM

Would there be any bias here at all? Your headline implies no Subaru is on the list? After reading I see there is at least one still worthy. I'm happy to say still driving an Outback with 365,000 miles and have another about to flip 135,000 still going strong. The two others have been to the dealers for recalls only. It's also important to note the size of Subaru is probably a third of the size of the others. I'd be happy to share with you by year or mileage what I've replaced and fixed on some of the other top performers. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention I certainly see a lot of Kia & Hyundai sedans out there for a country that doesn't want sedans anymore. If some of those 'Top Performers' made a sedan worth buying people would buy them. Subaru has had issues but has always done the right thing unlike some of their competitor's.

Rich (not verified)    June 18, 2019 - 6:02AM

In reply to by Dave (not verified)

Except that Subaru hasn’t done the right thing.

My whole family has owned Subaru vehicles since the 90s. We had 5 legacy/outback/forester 2.5 engines built 2000-2006 with head gasket failures before 80k and there was literally zero response from Subaru. After the second, we stopped using their service departments because we felt like they were profiting from their own defects. 5 failures isn’t a driver issue.

I love the platform. Nothing drives like the manual 50/50 split AWD of my 1997 Legacy and nothing could stop my 1991 Loyale with hill holder clutch and locking center differential.

I have shopped newer models but never decided to buy for all of the reasons I see on these comments: CVT, previous company response to very widely known defects, move away from simplicity and platform strengths to “me to” big SUV size and features. Clearly these things haven’t prevented Subaru’s market success, but it makes me think of how Patagonia pursued the demands of growing to mass market potential only to outgrow its strengths and soul before being taken back to its roots.

Subaru used to be about simplicity, utility, goats, sheep, dogs, postal drivers, college students, camping, climbing, twisty roads, moving across the country. When they are about that again, I’ll be the market. If not, maybe I’ll just buy an old one for the nostalgia of a bygone era.

Judy Holzmann (not verified)    June 16, 2019 - 11:49PM

Google "2017 Outback Dead Battery" and see the looooooong list of complaints of which Subaru says there's no problem. I found a solution - sell it and buy a BMW X3.

IRJ (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 12:56AM

Yeah right, I unluckily got a 2013 Outback that has more recalls and annoying defects than all my cars combined since 1990’s. These Subarus will not be driven pass 200k miles because they are no longer reliable to be driven in the first place.

Steven Peterson (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 1:22AM

I have several high mileage Subarus but they're all older. My highest one is my 92 SVX with 233k miles, still have it. I had a 98 Outback with 212k miles, sold it. Had a 99 Outback with 154k miles, sold it. I had a 02 Forester with 208k miles, sold it. I have a 05 Outback XT with 172k miles and threw a rod bearing. I have two 07 Outback XTs, one has 142k miles and the other has 52k miles. Subaru has been focusing too much on their appeal to middle aged families, but need to be appealing towards millennials. Get back to basics. My 99 had the best reliability of them all.

Src1975 (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 2:29AM

I’ll still take a Subaru, with all its safety features. With proper care and maintenance, ANY car can make it to 200k. Just don’t beat he hell out of them!

Christina Loyo… (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 2:32AM

I have a 1997 Subaru Impreza that has 370000 miles on her! And still running strong! I absolutely love her! I call her Meep. Cuz that's what her horn sounds like.

Jerry (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 3:17AM

The factory BATTERY is too small and the Cold Cranking Power is not sufficient. I installed a larger group number battery. I also added more heat insulation around the battery. I am considering an oil cooler..We will see.

David Gachengechi (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 4:14AM

It's pains to replace a steering rack within two years. It's pains a lot and the cost is way high where is the term confidence in motion

Brad Riggleman (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 7:28AM

I have a 2013 Subaru Outback that has just hit 170,000 miles. It did have a CVT issue at a 158,000 miles which, after a call to Subaru Corporate and follow up with past service records, they replaced "Free of Charge". I have owned 5 Subaru's since 1997 and all have been great cars. However, where Subaru Corporate excelled was in the service I received, if I did have a problem. I also owned a 2007 Ford 500 AWD and it had 162,000 trouble free miles before I traded it in on my 2013 Subaru Outback. I expect to get at least 250,000 miles out of my Outback before trading it in on either a Toyota or another Subaru. Depends on how Toyota does with the new Rav 4 design to see if it can actually compete with the off-road abilities of the Subaru.

Ryan Dixon (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 8:18AM

200k is just when the odometer stops working on old Volvo 240 series. Then they'll go for AT LEAST another decade after that.

Vehicle manufacturers : Start making cars that are good for 1 Million miles without much hassle and y'all can start bragging again. Until then, Volvo for life.

Marcia Peterson (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 11:16AM

I've had only Subarus since 1991. I started with Legacys, went up to Outbacks and now have a Forester. The Forester is a 2015 and only has 150,000 on it so far. I do a rural mail route and rack up miles like crazy. All of my old Subies have had at least 300,000 miles on them. One went over 500,000. A snowmobile took it out or it'd probably still be going! The 1998 model had issues. The others were all great. No serious problems or major expenses. Just good maintenance.

Lee Taplinger (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 11:19AM

We smell antifreeze under the hood which I always thought indicated a leak. The SM said if there's no puddle under the car then "that's normal."

Can that be true? Is she saying that to get out of a warranty repair?

Maggie (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 11:24AM

I can confirm, my 2018 outback has so many issues right out the box. My brakes had a manufacturing defect of the radial run-out causing brake shudder - when the car was brand new! The dealer tried to tell me the band new surface ground brakes were too rough and that their brake lathe would make a smoother surface (this is not physically possible). The electronics in the car are so cheep that that glitch out ALL THE TIME. Subaru of America and the dealer like to pay catch with whose problem it is. My stereo freezes with the music on whatever volume and it cannot be turned down - yes it is dangerous while driving. I have had the car for less then a year and already I cannot see myself putting up with all these issues for long enough to make it past 100k - weather or not the thing lasts that long.

JOHN LIVERNOIS (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 1:26PM

Consumer Reports just came out with a report calling Subaru the most reliable car for 2018.
So I am listening but I trust CS.
I've owned Toyotas, Hondas, Acura, Mazda, American. In my experience all are reliable to about 120k then.... except the american.
Looking to buy a Subaru

David (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 3:56PM

In reply to by Will (not verified)

Is the reliability problem related to where they are made?
Otherwise, are Japanese built Subarus proving more reliable than Indiana made? Maybe the component suppliers are different.

Guillermo Morales (not verified)    June 17, 2019 - 3:06PM

I have a 2011 Subaru Forester. It was recalled for a catalytic replacement when it had 85000 miles. At a 170000 miles engine light, anti-brake light and cruise control light went on. Took it to Subaru and was told that I need it another Catalytic converter. That they only last 90 to100000 miles. When I asked why my brake light and cruise control lights were on (btw the cruise control doesn't work while the light is flashing) I was told that they had no idea but the error code was for the CC. and they couldn't guarantee that all the light will go off which means not passing inspection. The price 2000.00. The car has 248000 miles now and everything is working fine but it will fail inspection next month. This is my third Subaru and my last since their quality and service has declined.