At $0.46–$0.50 per kWh in California, a Tesla Model X Owner Says His EV Costs the Same as a 25 MPG Gas SUV, $2,030 on Electricity vs. $2,023 for Gas, and Now Questions Whether an ICE Vehicle Makes More Sense

You should be paying road tax by KWH. Your vehicle causes more damage to the road than my economy car does, yet you do not pay your share of road tax. I pay per mile road tax through gas purchases. You don’t. Sorry if it makes your supposed green car not green anymore. It was just displacing the pollution to another part of earth and raping it of resources that cannot be replaced.

I have PG&E service with EV2 rate of $0.31/kwh. peak can be as high as $0.61. As long as I charge during the off-peak period, I'm ahead.
I think solar panels and a backup battery would be worthwhile, but the payback period is like 8-10 years. I have many mature trees around my home that shade my roof, and the city won't let me cut down those trees for solar panels...

Definitely a CA problem. I have an X. My same chart shows $1500 savings.

it's literally 10 cents when you charge at home. Superchargers are meant for traveling. not daily use. morons. and the guy with the Model X is even a bigger moron. bigger income obviously does not equate smarter brain.

$7 a month more for the Tesla that's nothing. we'll start seeing a savings concerning there's a couple of four refiners in California just shut down. Gas prices should jump at least a dollar to a dollar fifty gallon to start. He'll start seeing savings then.

The problem is not the car it's California. Even gas prices there are higher then the national average.

Very interesting article.

What's very concerning is that these charging costs are beginning to expand outside of California. From reports I've seen, the "Supercharger for Business" program that Tesla is setting up with private owners (like Wawa convenience stores, for example) are charging $.39 per kwh. That's not far off the California $.46 rate.

The pg&e rates quoted are actually much higher than .40 kwh. In addition to the $/Kwh charge, pg&e also adds multiple other delivery and misc charges. These add up to about .15 to .22 to the base cost of electricity. Also pg&e use a tiered system for pricing. Gasoline is the same cost if you by 10 gallons or 50 gallons Electricity rates jump substantially once you exceed the base amount.

Welp it's the same here in Maine with electricity rates of 32 cents kwh and gas at 2.70. The breakeven point at 2.5mi/kwh is 21mpg, at 3.5mi/kwh it's 30mpg. CMP(our electric supplier) doesn't offer off peak rates. Home charging is more expensive than driving a gas car. It's been this way the entire time, our state has a 3% EV adoption.

This is true for fast charging here in MI. Even off peak when it's 36 cents, it doesn't make sense in the winter. However charging slow and at home over night is very cost effective.

Gas includes road tax. My buddy got a road tax bill for his Tesla that made him grab his chest....over 5k. He's been trying to sell it for 2 years now w no luck. Battery has degraded 30 percent as well.

The price of gas in California is about to rise significantly. 30% of refinery capability is leaving the state.

This is an argument for a strategy already adopted by France and South Korea, two countries with a large % of nuclear generation that must be curtailed during heat waves, because reactor cooling water gets too hot to release into rivers. The solution? They've both mandated construction of solar canopy microgrids at ALL large (80 spaces) parking lots, nationwide, within 5 years. They're not wasting any time!

Affordable, reliable, widely distributed, solar energy abundance. They're already capturing and storing it, charging EVs, and fortifying local distribution grids right where most residential and small business rate payers live, work and commute from large apartments and condos to shopping centers, business parks and various municipal facilities. No new utility transmission, site acquisition or other site improvement spending required. And no permitting or interconnection delays or armies of litigious NIMBYS.

The only thing flawed with his calculation is premium fuel is not $4.20 in CA in a comparable SUV would likely require it with its forced induction engine.

He also lives in California he should be used to getting screwed over. But I hear the quality life is.. acceptable

My home solar helps make it worth it, but if you have to go to a charging station then it's not worth it at all. Except electric vehicles are so much nicer to drive than ICE so maybe worth the premium to some people, plus not many things to service and no wasted stops at gas stations when charging every night at home.

Sorry that your energy costs have exploded. However, you still have no maintenance….factoring oil, and other fluid changes and belts hoses, etc, YOU ARE STILL WINNING.
I’m in the 5th year of driving an EV exclusively and am saving thousands of dollars a year.

PG&E has an EV plan which significantly reduces the off peak rates. Also, the rates you're paying looks like supercharger rates which are almost always higher than home charging. If you don't have a home charger then yes, it's expensive and inconvenient to charge

PG&E has an EV plan which significantly reduces the off peak rates. Also, the rates you're paying looks like supercharger rates which are almost always higher than home charging. If you don't have a home charger then yes, it's expensive and inconvenient to charge

Just ask Google for oil company subsidies and pick a year. 2024 for example:
In 2024, U.S. oil companies continued receiving substantial government support through various subsidies, with estimates pointing to tens of billions annually, primarily via tax expenditures like deductions for drilling and favorable treatment of foreign income, despite proposals to cut them; recent analyses show figures like $34.8 billion yearly in federal support, including increased credits for carbon capture and support for oil-friendly tech within acts like the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA). These subsidies, often hidden in tax codes, are a major form of financial aid, distorting markets and benefiting companies who also spent heavily on political campaigns, securing favorable policies.

Also we aren't in foreign countries for their electricity and technology...

And lastly, show me a 600+ HP SUV that obtains 26mph, or even 20.

and how is the trade in value of that ev vs ice?

That is cost at Tesla charger station
Get a home charger and cut that hugely. Better yet, install solar panels and pay nothing.

Fun fact, about 75% of solar panel costs are paperwork and such. Kick your congressman and get that down!

2 years of experience has taught me the same thing. Charging exclusively at high-speed chargers will completely negate the "savings vs gas" positive component of EV ownership (but of course not the others)

But something bugs me about this guy's claimed efficiency. Getting less than 2 mi/kWh seems WAY off especially for something as slippy looking as a model X. Is it the car? His driving style? His numbers? Dunno.

Regardless, with the rates he's experiencing, "solar plus storage" and generating the electricity themselves becomes an even more attractive option (assuming he has a roof to throw the panels on).