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Subaru Will Hit It Out Of The Park If It Brings A New Truck With No CVT

Subaru enthusiasts have spoken, and they would buy a new 2023 Subaru Wilderness truck if it offered five things. Number one, of course, is no CVT. Check out the rest here.
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Author: Denis Flierl

This week, we ran a story about an all-new 2023 Subaru Wilderness truck, and Subaru enthusiasts would buy it if Subaru of America built one. We read all the comments and came up with five common features fans want in a new truck. If Subaru makes it, they will come.

No CVT but a 6-speed manual

The number one feature fans do not want is an all-new 2023 Subaru truck with a Continuously Variable automatic Transmission (CVT). Many Subaru owners despise the CVT, and they don't want it in a Subaru pickup. Of course, it needs a 6-speed manual gearbox, and Subaru already has a good one in its Crosstrek subcompact SUV.

2023 Subaru Wilderness truck
photo credit: Subtle Solutions @subtlesolutions

The reason Subaru keeps the CVT is because of two reasons; EyeSight and fuel mileage. Subaru hasn't been willing to spend the money to make EyeSight compatible with a manual transmission. And Subaru loves the CVT because it improves fuel efficiency.

Bring back the 3.6-liter Boxer but with a turbo

While the FA24 2.4-liter turbocharged Boxer engine would be a good fit for a new Subaru truck, many fans want a 6-cylinder engine with more horsepower for towing. The current 2.4-liter turbocharged engine in the Outback XT and Ascent family hauler produces 260 horsepower and 277 lb-ft of torque. Subaru could increase power in the FA24, but a 3.6-liter Boxer with a turbocharger would be a good option.

2023 Subaru Wilderness truck
photo credit: KDesign AG (Kleber Silva)

5,000 lb. towing capacity

A Subaru truck has to have enough towing capacity to pull a midsize trailer. The new pickup would need to have at least 5,000 lbs towing capacity and up to 6,500 lbs.

Standard and Wilderness trim levels

If Subaru offered two trim levels, it would satisfy two types of buyers. The standard Premium trim level would be for those wanting a truck for light duties and powered by the 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine. The Subaru Wilderness trim level for heavy-duty, towing, and off-road recreation would come with a new 3.6-liter 6-cylinder turbocharged Boxer producing 300 horsepower.

Make it affordable

The new Subaru truck needs to be affordable. Subaru's loyal followers want a truck with a starting MSRP of around $29,000 for the Premium trim level. The top-trim Subaru Wilderness truck would have a starting price of $36,995 and could be fully loaded for just under $40,000.

Subaru's loyal fans have spoken, and they would buy a new 2023 Subaru Wilderness truck if it offered five things. They don't want a CVT, offer a 6-cylinder engine option; it must have at least 5,000 lb. towing capacity, two trim levels, and it must be affordable. The five features are doable. Are you listening Subaru?

Give us your thoughts and let Subaru of America know what you want in a new 2023 Subaru Wilderness truck in the comments below.

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Denis Flierl has invested over 30 years in the automotive industry in a consulting role working with every major car brand. He is an accredited member of the Rocky Mountain Automotive Press. Check out Subaru Report where he covers all of the Japanese automaker's models. More stories can be found on the Torque News Subaru page. Follow Denis on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

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Comments

I would definitely buy a

Bob (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 11:00AM

I would definitely buy a Subaru truck . All of these suggestions are great, especially the manual transmission . I agree with 2 maybe 3 trim levels..base, mid, and wilderness . Also short and long beds . The one "major problem" Jeep has is NO standard or even Access Cab like it should have . Just having a crew cab is utterly stupid . I have seen, I believe, computer generated Jeep standard and access cabs and they are great. One last point is "affordability" . The average family or even person CAN NOT afford prices between $36,000 - $40,000 . My suggestion for affordability for the Wilderness Trim to "start" at maybe $29 -$31,500 range to make it affordable for the average person . Cause that is where Toyota and Jeep fail horribly..major flaw is affordability .

I would like to see this

D Albert (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 12:16PM

I would like to see this truck with a full size bed, small extended cab with a jump seat, and the 6 speed manual formerly used in the Forester.

I currently drive a 2016 Subaru Forester, 6 speed and it's fun to drive.

Given the discontinuation of the manual transmission in their vehicles that have enough headroom for me, I am disinclined to buy this brand when companies like Toyota are still making products suitable for me.

Subaru is NOT going to

T Simpson (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 12:31PM

Subaru is NOT going to abandon the CVT. Therefore, this truck is not going to be produced to existing customers expectations, or it will be produced with everything that existing customers dislike. Even with lower sales numbers, Subaru continues to sell the Ascent with a CVT. The competition is learning from Subaru’s mistakes, and using it to crush them, even during a bad sales year for all manufacturers. This is going to be interesting to watch. If Subaru America is reading these comments, ditch the CVT altogether, make the 2.4 turbo available across the model line, and listen to your customers.

Why waste time/resources on a

Doug S (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 12:31PM

Why waste time/resources on a gasser. It should be an EV. Would address all issues listed in the article and unlike a gasser, would be a vehicle with little competition.

I love Subaru trucks. For 30

Russell Hart (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 1:05PM

I love Subaru trucks. For 30 years I owned Brats and Baja's. There are a glut of small trucks now. The Baja died because no one wanted it. What would make a new one any different? Long live the Baja!!!

Toyota owns 20% of Subaru.

Beef McLargehuge (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 2:18PM

Toyota owns 20% of Subaru. Do you really think there's any chance they'll let Subaru build a direct competitor to the Tacoma?

I have owned 4 Subarus, 3 of

Brad (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 3:08PM

I have owned 4 Subarus, 3 of which were manual. Last year I purchased a Crosstrek, but decided to buy it used as the new ones could only be purchased as a base model and you could only get a upgraded and larger engine model of you went with the CVT crap.

Subaru 3.6 was not a boxer,

asparagus (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 3:31PM

Subaru 3.6 was not a boxer, it was a V6

Would be first in line for

Bob W (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 4:30PM

Would be first in line for the new Subaru truck with the full tow package. We own numerous Subaru’s and would love to add the truck to our collection.

I was gonna get a tacoma as

Morgan Russell… (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 5:38PM

I was gonna get a tacoma as my next vehicle, but I'd buy a subaru truck first.

If Subaru makes a truck, it

Jeremy Moore (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 5:57PM

If Subaru makes a truck, it isn't going to be offered with a 6spd manual simply because 8000-10000 people want it but half would actually but it. They really just need an 8-10spd auto which they probably won't do. If they make a pickup again, it'll be based off the Outback(as was the Baha and this will also probably be a Baha) and it'll only have a CVT with no other options for transmissions

All Subaru should have the

Elaine (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 6:38PM

All Subaru should have the option of manual transmission
I own 2012 outback and 2017 forester
Will run them into the ground before I give them up

Why would Subaru waste their

Bob (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 6:50PM

Why would Subaru waste their time designing this truck when the rest of the world is going electric. Combustion engines are the dustier and they risk being left behind with a move like this.

I currently own a 2010 xterra

Andrew W May (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 6:57PM

I currently own a 2010 xterra and a 2018 impreza. My xterra replacement will be either electric or plug in hybrid. For reasons of fuel costs and ecological impact. A small pick up with plug in hybrid would be appealing.

Small displacement Diesel

Darrel Roth (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 8:06PM

Small displacement Diesel engine. 6 speed manual. Subaru all wheel drive yes please.

I just bought a 2022 FORD

James Hadd (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 8:37PM

I just bought a 2022 FORD MAVERICK awd with the fx4 package on it for the same reasons people gave here: Finally, and affordable truck with good gas mileage (my awd fx4 gets 30 consistently....the fwd hybrid is rated at 42mpg) for less than 30k all included.
I almost bought a Wilderness Outback, until I saw the $40,800 price tag. We currently own a 2020 Crosstrek and love it! But......BUT....it needs a turbo. FOR CHRISTS SAKE, EVERYONE WANTS THE TURBO OPTION. I don't think most companies actually listen to consumers.

I agree with 6 speed and

Mike D. (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 10:27PM

I agree with 6 speed and should offer a 2 and 4 door options. The engine should be a 4 cyl and 6cyl with a turbo as a possibility. Nice truck appearance in the images! I love my Outback and would welcome a truck to the lineup!

Of course they want all these

Dave Blanke (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 10:42PM

Of course they want all these things at a ridiculous low price of $30K. Like most consumers they live in their minds of a previous time where workers make a minimum wage and no company makes a profit.

A Subaru truck would be OK, I

John (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 10:53PM

A Subaru truck would be OK, I could put it in my bed as ballast for my F350 when the roads are slick. None of what's mentioned fits my definition of a truck. Sorry.

I want a Toyota truck, but

WillyD (not verified)    October 31, 2021 - 11:12PM

I want a Toyota truck, but would strongly consider an all wheel drive Subaru truck.

I do think it would be fun,

Terry (not verified)    November 1, 2021 - 12:06AM

I do think it would be fun, but I agree with the rendering mishap comment... it still bears Hennessey's "Velociraptor" badge below the passenger door.... I would buy a Subaru pickup for my wife if they came out with one. Standard trans or cvt.

Dont forget to make sure its

Brandon (not verified)    November 1, 2021 - 1:31AM

Dont forget to make sure its not a uni body and has a frame. Maybe a box the frame. 6 lug axles.

3.5 towing v6 Diesel I would

Craig moss (not verified)    November 1, 2021 - 2:31AM

3.5 towing v6 Diesel I would seriously think about it

If you really want this to be

Kinny (not verified)    November 1, 2021 - 3:17AM

If you really want this to be a real truck, then it needs to have a true 4wd drive train, with optional rear locker.

For anyone who knows anything

Craig (not verified)    November 1, 2021 - 7:36AM

For anyone who knows anything about automotive OEM supply chains the time for the above wish list was 3/5 years ago. If Subaru is bringing out a truck it’s design is already in the oven. By all means keep the suggestions coming but know that won’t affect the launch in any material way

Sharing price needs to match

Bart (not verified)    November 1, 2021 - 8:12AM

Sharing price needs to match the new hybrid engine Ford Maverick @ $20k. $30k is a lot more just to get a Subaru truck.

Sounds good to me

Teresa coleman (not verified)    November 1, 2021 - 9:18AM

Sounds good to me

It's not going to hit

Greg (not verified)    November 1, 2021 - 10:21AM

It's not going to hit anything out of the park. The Japanese don't know how to make trucks period.

A strong 6 or 8 speed

Sogs (not verified)    November 1, 2021 - 12:24PM

A strong 6 or 8 speed Automatic a must. Manual, no need. I know nobody that has a manual anymore. CVT is garbage. +300hp a must. Towing ability a must.

Lower the truck a few inches.

BRUCE PEDROTTI (not verified)    November 1, 2021 - 1:04PM

Lower the truck a few inches...I’m older an cannot get in and out of the hi profile vehicles.