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Honda Civic, CR-V Oil Dilution Problem, What You Should Do Now

If you own a Honda Civic or CR-V with a 1.5-liter turbo engine you could have problems. Here’s what you can do.
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You’ve heard about the Honda Civic and CR-V oil dissolution problem, not what should you do? If you own a 2017 to 2018 Honda CR-V or a 2016 to 2018 Honda Civic with a 1.5-liter turbo engine, you will now have an extended warranty covering your vehicle for another year. If you experience problems, Honda says you will be covered, but only for certain parts.

Complaints from owners say they can smell raw fuel inside the cabin and outside the vehicle. This is due to gasoline seeping into the engine oil. The problem has raised concerns about the durability of the 1.5-liter turbo engine and about the vehicles potentially stalling, especially in cold weather. But problems in summer months have also been reported in California and Texas according to Consumer Reports. Oil dilution could even result in catastrophic engine failure.

2018 Honda Civic

If you suspect you have a problem in your Civic or CR-V, check your oil level. If it’s above the full mark, there’s likely fuel seeping into your oil and it could ruin your engine. Apparently driving your vehicle short distances can exacerbate the problem.

Honda’s solution

Honda is now providing you an extra year of coverage, six years from the time of purchase, with no mileage limits. But it only covers some powertrain components; the camshaft, rocker-arm assemblies, and spark plugs. Honda says oil dilution in the Civic and CR-V 1.5-liter engine is rare and that the company is “acting to provide peace of mind for its customers.”

Honda has also issued an update to these Civic/CR-V models and is notifying owners in cold-weather states to bring their vehicles to dealers for repairs. WardsAuto reports, Honda spokesman Chris Martin says updates involve transmission and engine software changes that allow the engine to warm up quicker, reducing the possibility of un-evaporated fuel collecting in the engine oil early in the drive cycle. Ignition timing, CVT control, and air-conditioning operations are modified to help the engine warm up and retain heat.

2018 Honda CR-V

Some owners are reporting Honda dealers are telling customers engine oil contamination is considered normal and are being denied warranty coverage for the necessary repairs and are being forced to pay for replacement engines and repairs out-of-pocket.

What should owners do?

If you smell gas fumes in your Honda Civic or CR-V and your oil level is above the full mark, you need to go to your local Honda dealer and report the problem. Make sure you document everything by getting a detailed repair invoice and especially get the service advisor to put “no fix is available” if they tell you repairing your vehicle is not needed. Keep bringing your vehicle back if the problem keeps occurring. Under lemon laws, you have rights to seek recourse, even if they cannot properly fix the problem or maintain they still do not have have a solution.

2018 Honda Civic

No recall has been ordered because the problem isn’t considered a safety issue according to Honda. Because of the widespread problem, the law firm of Sauder Schelkopf LLC is investigating a class action lawsuit on behalf of owners of Honda CR-V and Honda Civic vehicles (model years 2016, 2017 and 2018) that are prone to engine oil contamination. If you have purchased a 2019 Honda Civic or CR-V all 2019’ models are being updated at the factory.

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If you have experienced engine oil contamination within your 2016, 2017 or 2018 Honda Civic or CR-V vehicle, you can contact the lawyers at Sauder Schelkopf here for further information and updates.

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Have you had any Civic or CR-V 1.5-liter engine oil dilution issues?
Own a 2017 CRV and a 2016 Civic have noticed gasoline smell in both vehicles at last service.
Is this a problem for the 1.5. Engine in the Honda Fit ?
I have a 2017 CRV EX -L with the 1.5 (91 cid) engine any have not experienced oil dilution or gas smell issues.
Yes. So bad I sold the car off at a major loss. My first on a Civic to dump and this will be the sixxth I have owned. Bought my first one new back in 2008. I may never buy another Honda. The year with that car was just pain. Gave full disclosure and sold cheap. EX-L w/navi. All the electronics worked great. Would have gladly given up some of the bells and whistles to have a good running car.
Own a 2017 CRV Touring model with the 1.5L which I purchased new. I follow all service schedules to the tee and then some. Oil changes at 2500 to 3000 mi. with tire rotation every other oil change. Keep looking show room new. Oil looks dirty after only 100 mi after having it changed and now with app. 14.000 mi on it and 1500 mi. since last oil change it is 1/2 inch above the full mark. Also need new tires put on at 14,000 mi. as they were severely cupped and causing such a road noise it was NOT FUN to drive. Was told rear alignment was off. This started after first rotation. I am very displeased with Honda and am considering dumping it if not resolved soon. Dealer said we can't do anything until your service light comes on per Honda. Sounds like they really don't give a S_ _ _ about anyone but them selves. I was a Toyota owner for 15 years why in the world did I switch? Well I did presume Honda was even a bit better. What a huge mistake. Come on Honda put on some big guy pants and step up to the plate and be honest and forthcoming you have an issue and deal with it.
We have a 2018 CRV Touring model with the turbo engine and have had the exact same experience. We had the software updated in January as part of the recall program and immediately had a 10% reduction in fuel economy. The oil level is above the full mark and has a gasoline odour. The turbo is noisy and the tire noise excessive. All of this was brought to the attention of the dealership and Honda Canada and I was told that this was normal and they have no other reports from owners with similar issues. I guess I am just lucky.
Yes, while out of state, five messages appeared on dashboard...I immediately stopped, which is the best idea, got towed and it took Richmond Honda dealer one day to figure out gas leaked into engine oil. All fixed FREE but I need to know could it happen again. Do not drive it once errors appear, only leads to more damage. I told Honda HQ about it, Honda Civic 2017 turbo. I had driven over 150 miles before it happened and do not live in a cold weather zone.
Yes, and I traded the car off for a different vehicle. It’s clear Honda will drag this issue out and not stand behind its vehicle or satisfy their customers.
Yes. And the 'fix' performed by the dealer made it so the 2018 CRV produced no heat until driven @ high rpm for 15-20 mins. Couldn't clear ice or fog from windows and the interior was ice cold, even with 2 10 mon remote starts. Honda said that's normal and also that I should change my oil every 2500 miles. That plus daily failure of the safety systems on my drive home from work, prompted me to trade itin and never buy another Honda vehicle.
2020 civic Si sedan. I smell a STRONG oder of fuel when I pull off my oil cap for my engine. I have two buddies with the same issue with a 2019 civic Si sedan and a 2018 civic ex-t sedan. This issue obviously has not been resolved. Out of all three of the vehicles, my oil had the most rich fuel smell. Relevant information; My first oil change for my 2020 civic Si was at 5,500k miles. I have only driven about 1,000k miles since noticing this issue. I have about 6,500-6,700k miles. It appears that my oil is about 1/5th of a quart higher than the full mark.
I am up in Alberta, Canada and have yet to experience this problem. With my 2018 hatch never smelt fuel nor have the oil level change. Before and after the recall was done. Gave it then proper brake in when I first got it and I don't do short 5min drive. Its direct injection what do you expect.. short drives in the cold has never been good for cars to start
We bought a new 2017 1.4 L CRV in Florida and experienced the dilution issue. The local dealer was useless. Honda of America was even worse. Opened a case. They promised me a software patch, then reneged inexplicably for geolocation reasons. To be clear, they ghosted me and pretended they never opened a case, promised a fix, then closed the case and did nothing, but this is exactly what they did. It's our 3rd Honda and our last. We sold it. #NEVERAGAINHONDA
WOW! I WISH I COULD HAVE BOUGHT IT FROM YOU! I COULD HAVE DRIVEN IT FOR 6 YEARS AND UNLIMITED MILEAGE..... MOST CARS OR TRUCKS WON'T LAST OVER 6 YEARS ANYWAY.
A well built car, maintained properly, lasts 10 years on average. The 2017-2018 EarthDreams engine makes that impossible. If you think Honda offering a firmware update, then retracting the offer, is good customer service, you must work for one of the dealers.
"Won't last over 6 years"? How old are you, 16? Kept my 83' Toyota Celica for over 20 yrs., current 98' Prelude for now 21 years. You must be a total moron.
I have only ever owned one vehicle less than 15 years old. Many of them were older than me, one of which was 30 years older than me and had the original bottom end of the engine (valves had been re-milled and pistons resleeved) which had done over 1 million km. It was only taken off the road when someone rear ended me at a stop light (and has since been restored by someone else with the same engine).
You say most cars won’t last over six years anyway? What planet do you live on? You are clueless when it comes to automobile knowledge. Please educate yourself before making such a stupid statement.
Warranty is applied on only 3 thing you have to pay for the rest
The software patch and AC controller replacement did not fix anything. You missed nothing.
There is also widespread air conditioner failure taking place for thousands of 10th generation Civic sedans. Honda forums and message boards are full of reports of faulty compressor and condensers not able to remain pressurized and causing all the refrigerant R1234yf to leak out. These compressors and condensers are faulty in brand new vehicles but the buyers only find out months later because it often takes that long for the freon to leak out. Dealers are then trying to charge thousands to 'repair' what was faulty components in the first place. There needs to either be a recall or free repair for Civic owners who's AC systems are breaking shortly after warranty expiration which for ac is a short 24,000 miles.
That is not true. The warranty on the a/c system is for 36 months or 36,000 miles. If the dealer finds a leak it is covered. The dealer should put some dye in the system and then check with a black light. If the system was low from the factory, you should have noticed it from the beginning. If it was cold then and the leak started later the dye should show up. If it takes a few weeks and all is well maybe ask the dealer to recheck for the dye. WITH A BLACK LIGHT.
There is also widespread air conditioner failure taking place for thousands of 10th generation Civic sedans. Honda forums and message boards are full of reports of faulty compressor and condensers not able to remain pressurized and causing all the refrigerant R1234yf to leak out. These compressors and condensers are faulty in brand new vehicles but the buyers only find out months later because it often takes that long for the freon to leak out. Dealers are then trying to charge thousands to 'repair' what was faulty components in the first place. There needs to either be a recall or free repair for Civic owners who's AC systems are breaking shortly after warranty expiration which for ac is a short 24,000 miles.
My 2018 CR-V has this problem. At first dealer played ignorant. Then said Honda refused fix. American Honda rep also refused fix. Engine is slow to warm up in cooler weather also. I live in Oregon.
My 2017 CR-V had an oil delusion problem during last years Texas mild winter months. Since it’s now summer the dip stick has a normal oil smell. No issues with my engine with 18,000 plus miles. At this time. It’s sad I have to worry about my Honda which i purchased because I thought it was a reliable auto.
The eight generation has a problem with sludge build up. If this happens the check engine light will come on and set a code of 2647 vetec oil pressure switch high voltage it seems a common problem in 5 He 8th generation civics the module to correct this problem is 200 dollars and it located in the back of the engine. My point is since 2005 honda has been having a lot of problems with their engines ( forgot also the crack block issues) that seems they need to address not just by extending warranty. Bought this car used in 2015 and the crack block warranty was only extended till 2016 and I have thus crack block peoblem
NO to new vehicles with: auto stop/start, CVTs, auto/manual trans, 4-cylinder engines, turbos, cylinder deactivation, direct injection, timing belts, run-flat tires.
Rare my a##. Go and check out the Facebook groups and other forums as to how many people suffer with the gas in the oil and freezing our asses off in the winter because it takes a good 15 mins of high speed driving to get any warmth If you call atleast 50% of a group of people with this problem rare sure it's rare , but I'm pretty sure rare means less than 5%
I canceled my order for a 2019 Honda Civic Manual Hatchback. I expect 250,000 miles from my cars (and my older Civics gave it to me) as I take very good care of them. Don't expect the new ones will come close. Honda has lost my patronage the way they have avoided and mis-managed this issue. All those cars should have been recalled and a real fix given not just an adjustment to the software.There is an actual mechanical fault with these engines and it will result in early engine failure.
I agree 100%. A software “update” is not a mechanical fix. This is just Honda’s way of saving millions of dollars on redesigning a new engine from the ground up. I have owned two Honda’s in the past and will NEVER buy another Honda again. Toyota will surely capitalize on Honda’s unethical and dishonest policies and increase their customer patronage by huge margins. If you can’t trust a automobile manufacturer to stand behind their product you’d be a fool to buy from them! Honda has created their own demise. DON’T fall for Honda’s misleading “fix”. BUY A TOYOTA!

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