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Honda Civic, CR-V Oil Dilution Problem, What You Should Do Now

If you own a Honda Civic or CR-V with a 1.5-liter turbo engine you could have problems. Here’s what you can do.
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You’ve heard about the Honda Civic and CR-V oil dissolution problem, not what should you do? If you own a 2017 to 2018 Honda CR-V or a 2016 to 2018 Honda Civic with a 1.5-liter turbo engine, you will now have an extended warranty covering your vehicle for another year. If you experience problems, Honda says you will be covered, but only for certain parts.

Complaints from owners say they can smell raw fuel inside the cabin and outside the vehicle. This is due to gasoline seeping into the engine oil. The problem has raised concerns about the durability of the 1.5-liter turbo engine and about the vehicles potentially stalling, especially in cold weather. But problems in summer months have also been reported in California and Texas according to Consumer Reports. Oil dilution could even result in catastrophic engine failure.

2018 Honda Civic

If you suspect you have a problem in your Civic or CR-V, check your oil level. If it’s above the full mark, there’s likely fuel seeping into your oil and it could ruin your engine. Apparently driving your vehicle short distances can exacerbate the problem.

Honda’s solution

Honda is now providing you an extra year of coverage, six years from the time of purchase, with no mileage limits. But it only covers some powertrain components; the camshaft, rocker-arm assemblies, and spark plugs. Honda says oil dilution in the Civic and CR-V 1.5-liter engine is rare and that the company is “acting to provide peace of mind for its customers.”

Honda has also issued an update to these Civic/CR-V models and is notifying owners in cold-weather states to bring their vehicles to dealers for repairs. WardsAuto reports, Honda spokesman Chris Martin says updates involve transmission and engine software changes that allow the engine to warm up quicker, reducing the possibility of un-evaporated fuel collecting in the engine oil early in the drive cycle. Ignition timing, CVT control, and air-conditioning operations are modified to help the engine warm up and retain heat.

2018 Honda CR-V

Some owners are reporting Honda dealers are telling customers engine oil contamination is considered normal and are being denied warranty coverage for the necessary repairs and are being forced to pay for replacement engines and repairs out-of-pocket.

What should owners do?

If you smell gas fumes in your Honda Civic or CR-V and your oil level is above the full mark, you need to go to your local Honda dealer and report the problem. Make sure you document everything by getting a detailed repair invoice and especially get the service advisor to put “no fix is available” if they tell you repairing your vehicle is not needed. Keep bringing your vehicle back if the problem keeps occurring. Under lemon laws, you have rights to seek recourse, even if they cannot properly fix the problem or maintain they still do not have have a solution.

2018 Honda Civic

No recall has been ordered because the problem isn’t considered a safety issue according to Honda. Because of the widespread problem, the law firm of Sauder Schelkopf LLC is investigating a class action lawsuit on behalf of owners of Honda CR-V and Honda Civic vehicles (model years 2016, 2017 and 2018) that are prone to engine oil contamination. If you have purchased a 2019 Honda Civic or CR-V all 2019’ models are being updated at the factory.

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If you have experienced engine oil contamination within your 2016, 2017 or 2018 Honda Civic or CR-V vehicle, you can contact the lawyers at Sauder Schelkopf here for further information and updates.

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Have you had any Civic or CR-V 1.5-liter engine oil dilution issues?
Own a 2017 CRV and a 2016 Civic have noticed gasoline smell in both vehicles at last service.
Is this a problem for the 1.5. Engine in the Honda Fit ?
I have a 2017 CRV EX -L with the 1.5 (91 cid) engine any have not experienced oil dilution or gas smell issues.
Yes. So bad I sold the car off at a major loss. My first on a Civic to dump and this will be the sixxth I have owned. Bought my first one new back in 2008. I may never buy another Honda. The year with that car was just pain. Gave full disclosure and sold cheap. EX-L w/navi. All the electronics worked great. Would have gladly given up some of the bells and whistles to have a good running car.
Own a 2017 CRV Touring model with the 1.5L which I purchased new. I follow all service schedules to the tee and then some. Oil changes at 2500 to 3000 mi. with tire rotation every other oil change. Keep looking show room new. Oil looks dirty after only 100 mi after having it changed and now with app. 14.000 mi on it and 1500 mi. since last oil change it is 1/2 inch above the full mark. Also need new tires put on at 14,000 mi. as they were severely cupped and causing such a road noise it was NOT FUN to drive. Was told rear alignment was off. This started after first rotation. I am very displeased with Honda and am considering dumping it if not resolved soon. Dealer said we can't do anything until your service light comes on per Honda. Sounds like they really don't give a S_ _ _ about anyone but them selves. I was a Toyota owner for 15 years why in the world did I switch? Well I did presume Honda was even a bit better. What a huge mistake. Come on Honda put on some big guy pants and step up to the plate and be honest and forthcoming you have an issue and deal with it.
We have a 2018 CRV Touring model with the turbo engine and have had the exact same experience. We had the software updated in January as part of the recall program and immediately had a 10% reduction in fuel economy. The oil level is above the full mark and has a gasoline odour. The turbo is noisy and the tire noise excessive. All of this was brought to the attention of the dealership and Honda Canada and I was told that this was normal and they have no other reports from owners with similar issues. I guess I am just lucky.
Yes, while out of state, five messages appeared on dashboard...I immediately stopped, which is the best idea, got towed and it took Richmond Honda dealer one day to figure out gas leaked into engine oil. All fixed FREE but I need to know could it happen again. Do not drive it once errors appear, only leads to more damage. I told Honda HQ about it, Honda Civic 2017 turbo. I had driven over 150 miles before it happened and do not live in a cold weather zone.
I am up in Alberta, Canada and have yet to experience this problem. With my 2018 hatch never smelt fuel nor have the oil level change. Before and after the recall was done. Gave it then proper brake in when I first got it and I don't do short 5min drive. Its direct injection what do you expect.. short drives in the cold has never been good for cars to start
We bought a new 2017 1.4 L CRV in Florida and experienced the dilution issue. The local dealer was useless. Honda of America was even worse. Opened a case. They promised me a software patch, then reneged inexplicably for geolocation reasons. To be clear, they ghosted me and pretended they never opened a case, promised a fix, then closed the case and did nothing, but this is exactly what they did. It's our 3rd Honda and our last. We sold it. #NEVERAGAINHONDA
WOW! I WISH I COULD HAVE BOUGHT IT FROM YOU! I COULD HAVE DRIVEN IT FOR 6 YEARS AND UNLIMITED MILEAGE..... MOST CARS OR TRUCKS WON'T LAST OVER 6 YEARS ANYWAY.
A well built car, maintained properly, lasts 10 years on average. The 2017-2018 EarthDreams engine makes that impossible. If you think Honda offering a firmware update, then retracting the offer, is good customer service, you must work for one of the dealers.
"Won't last over 6 years"? How old are you, 16? Kept my 83' Toyota Celica for over 20 yrs., current 98' Prelude for now 21 years. You must be a total moron.
The software patch and AC controller replacement did not fix anything. You missed nothing.
There is also widespread air conditioner failure taking place for thousands of 10th generation Civic sedans. Honda forums and message boards are full of reports of faulty compressor and condensers not able to remain pressurized and causing all the refrigerant R1234yf to leak out. These compressors and condensers are faulty in brand new vehicles but the buyers only find out months later because it often takes that long for the freon to leak out. Dealers are then trying to charge thousands to 'repair' what was faulty components in the first place. There needs to either be a recall or free repair for Civic owners who's AC systems are breaking shortly after warranty expiration which for ac is a short 24,000 miles.
That is not true. The warranty on the a/c system is for 36 months or 36,000 miles. If the dealer finds a leak it is covered. The dealer should put some dye in the system and then check with a black light. If the system was low from the factory, you should have noticed it from the beginning. If it was cold then and the leak started later the dye should show up. If it takes a few weeks and all is well maybe ask the dealer to recheck for the dye. WITH A BLACK LIGHT.
There is also widespread air conditioner failure taking place for thousands of 10th generation Civic sedans. Honda forums and message boards are full of reports of faulty compressor and condensers not able to remain pressurized and causing all the refrigerant R1234yf to leak out. These compressors and condensers are faulty in brand new vehicles but the buyers only find out months later because it often takes that long for the freon to leak out. Dealers are then trying to charge thousands to 'repair' what was faulty components in the first place. There needs to either be a recall or free repair for Civic owners who's AC systems are breaking shortly after warranty expiration which for ac is a short 24,000 miles.
My 2018 CR-V has this problem. At first dealer played ignorant. Then said Honda refused fix. American Honda rep also refused fix. Engine is slow to warm up in cooler weather also. I live in Oregon.
My 2017 CR-V had an oil delusion problem during last years Texas mild winter months. Since it’s now summer the dip stick has a normal oil smell. No issues with my engine with 18,000 plus miles. At this time. It’s sad I have to worry about my Honda which i purchased because I thought it was a reliable auto.
The eight generation has a problem with sludge build up. If this happens the check engine light will come on and set a code of 2647 vetec oil pressure switch high voltage it seems a common problem in 5 He 8th generation civics the module to correct this problem is 200 dollars and it located in the back of the engine. My point is since 2005 honda has been having a lot of problems with their engines ( forgot also the crack block issues) that seems they need to address not just by extending warranty. Bought this car used in 2015 and the crack block warranty was only extended till 2016 and I have thus crack block peoblem
NO to new vehicles with: auto stop/start, CVTs, auto/manual trans, 4-cylinder engines, turbos, cylinder deactivation, direct injection, timing belts, run-flat tires.
Rare my a##. Go and check out the Facebook groups and other forums as to how many people suffer with the gas in the oil and freezing our asses off in the winter because it takes a good 15 mins of high speed driving to get any warmth If you call atleast 50% of a group of people with this problem rare sure it's rare , but I'm pretty sure rare means less than 5%
I canceled my order for a 2019 Honda Civic Manual Hatchback. I expect 250,000 miles from my cars (and my older Civics gave it to me) as I take very good care of them. Don't expect the new ones will come close. Honda has lost my patronage the way they have avoided and mis-managed this issue. All those cars should have been recalled and a real fix given not just an adjustment to the software.There is an actual mechanical fault with these engines and it will result in early engine failure.
I live in central west Florida and my 2017 Honda CR-V's oil, stinks like a gas can. So, Honda saying that the problem is only in the cold climates is not true. Before you sign a class action suit make sure you know what you will get. Typically, the law firm get the lions share and the signee get a small sum. Honda would love to settle this through a class action lawsuit. It would not surprise me if Honda hasn't hired a law firm to do just that.
This worries me, because I own a 2017 CRV. Only ours is the 2.4 engine, I did see that one person had an oil dilution problem with the 2.4, but so far we have not. Honda will lose a lot of loyal customers because of this, I also found out there is a class action lawsuit against them! AND they had to recall the defects in China!! I hope the really hurts Honda sales!!
Since your car is not a turbo with GDI you should not be at all susceptible to the problem. Problem is with the 1,5 liter Turbo engine.
Hi, has the 2.0 engine the same problem? I mean, the engine in the Type R..... Thanks.
I have a 2017 Crv and have not had any issues what so ever with oil dilution. Don’t smell anything. AC works great. Can’t be any happier with great mPG for SUV. I will keep owning a Honda as long as I can
Took civic hatchback in with turb engine after first oil change and had a whole quart more oil come out that reeked of fuel. Was told there was no problem and to call honda. Given run around by dealer and honda sending back and forth between the two. Now had to get ac fixed and there was an air conditioner software update / recall that needed an oil change??? Sounds like honda is playing games with customers. Thankfully leasing and getting out of the car soon
I have owned Hondas for 34 years. After reading these reviews and the absurd response from Honda regarding known issues, well-documented gas in oil defect to be precise, I will not purchase another. I could not afford to buy a car, have an issue like this, and be ignored by the dealer and manufacturer. I know most if not all car companies blow off customers as long as they can or until government regulations put a boot on their neck to fix problems, but that doesn't change the cost to customers, both financial and the rest of the BS with numerous trip to a dealer that accomplish nothing but aggravation and wasted time. The dealers are paid for every trip back and the worst of them try to double-dip and tell customers they need service they don't need or is paid for under warranty. The lack of trust and harm to the brand doesn't seem to be any deterrent. The customer takes a hit when they try to unload a vehicle with a history of manufactured defects. There are two problems with Honda or any car company that puts a vehicle like this on the road. They either don't know what they are doing at the engineering and testing phase, two chances to avoid this problem, or they don't care. In this case, it's both. What good is adding a year to the warranty if the issue is an internal engine problem? As many customers have indicated, they have had as much as an extra quart of an oil gas mixture in the crankcase at the time of oil change. If the excessive contaminated oil level isn't a problem then why all the warnings about the dangers of overfilling. What does gas in the oil do to the viscosity level and wear on the engine parts? Honda chose to join the ranks of cars engineered with problems. Honda chose to turn their backs on customers. That's enough to terminate my 34-year buying history. It's the only way to send a message to a car company that prefers a careless and self-destructive business model.