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Done With Model Y, Tesla Fans Move on to the Pickup Truck: What Will it Be Like?

ANALYSIS AND OPINION: It hasn’t been a week since the Tesla Y unveil at the Design Studio and the Tesla Fan Base and media alike are now speculating what the already iconic pickup truck will shape out to be. So over Model Y and it’s ho hum, the excitement energy is already now building for Model U.

Posted: March 18, 2019 - 6:03PM
Author: Al Castro

If there was anything that stole the thunder from Model Y it probably was the already existence of Model 3, that once we were past its unveil, it was Elon of all people, who had to tweet us that we missed his ¨one more thing¨ Easter Egg that night of the show. Instead of it coming at the end where we all expect it to be, it came nearly at the very beginning that we all missed it. And in doing that, the national conversation about Model Y eviscerated onto the next model coming in the lineup, and that is Model U, the more sexier vehicle which is a pickup truck. I now give you some speculation from other media sources, some of it slightly dated keep in mind please, some from the Net, and I top it off with my opinion as to what the Tesla Model U will shape up to be, with my thoughts as to what we should expect from the upcoming vehicle:

According to Pickup Trucks 2018:

  • They’re the ones with the illustration of a Model S done in pickup with a tandem axle.
  • They think the Model U will top north of $120,000 MRP.
  • A truck with a unibody design, second since Honda Ridgeline.
  • The base model should use a 75D drivetrain, which is currently capable of delivering up to 328 horsepower and 387 lb-ft of torque. This option should get a smaller 120 kWh battery, which is going to enable around 240 miles of driving on a single charge.
  • The mid-range Tesla Pickup Truck will use a 90D drivetrain system with 417 horsepower and 485 pound-feet of torque, while the range-topping Model U should use the impressive P90D system that’s going to produce 532 horsepower and 713 lb-ft of twist. Both the 90D and P90D mills will be mated to a 160 kWh battery pack and both should be able to cross around 400 miles on a single charge.
  • The first estimations say that the top-of-the-line Tesla Pickup Truck should be able for a towing capacity of 10,000 pounds, while the unloaded vehicle might easily get a 0-60 sprint below 5.0 seconds.

This is what Inside EVs had to say about their version of the U with a friend who helped them render this rendition of the truck, the one that looks very Ram-like in white.

  • Their version seems to be a little larger and more Dodge Ram m-like
  • The hood has a large frunk area and a large front liftgate.
  • In the renderer’s words: “I feel like if Tesla wants to be taken seriously in the highly competitive American truck market they need to come up with a design that not only looks like a Tesla, but is also rugged and bold looking.”
  • What I´m afraid we have more here is more Ram than Tesla. This would make an excellent Ram electric. I don´t think necessarily a Tesla.
  • Nice attempt though. I’d give this to FCA.

My colleague Frederic Lambert over at Electrek got his end of the Tesla community thinking of Model U in the rendering above that has Tesla turbine wheels and Ridgeline like reinforcements on top of the bed.

Frederic found a reddit user who made a rendering of the Semi style that fits into Elon’s Easter Egg profile. Reddit profiler u/LukeTospace has Model U back to class 8 instead of class 2 or 3 light duty pickup.

Fredric also compiled a list of Elon’s promises and composed them into a list:

• It’s going to be a big truck.
◦ Musk said that it will feature a step that will lower to step into the truck and he said that Andre the Giant will be able to fit in the driver’s seat.
• The Tesla Truck is going to be a 6-seater.
• It’s going to have an option for 400 to 500 miles of range “maybe higher”
◦ Musk previously said that platforms like the Model S and Model X would probably be capped at 125 kWh of energy capacity, but he said that the truck platform will offer an opportunity for a much bigger battery pack.
• Dual Motor All-wheel-drive powertrain with dynamic suspension will be standard on the truck.
• The truck will have a 240-volt connection for heavy-duty tools and even an air compressor to run air tools.
◦ the second part was a suggestion that Musk liked since the truck will already have a pneumatic system for the air suspension.
• ‘300,000 lbs of towing capacity’.
◦ That’s another tweet where you have to ask yourself ‘is he kidding?’, but he is most often not. Though I’d bet the actual rated capacity is going to be much lower and like the Model X, owners will be able to push the truck further.
• It will be able to float.
◦ Musk referenced how the Model S is able to, but that’s up to a certain degree and it’s obviously not recommended.
• The Tesla Truck will have lockers.
• Musk said that ‘it will look like a truck’.
◦ I take this as he is not planning an overly different design because it’s electric. He mentioned that he likes the design of the old Bronco.

I make no bones that my favorite rendering is from Truck Trends and I use it often as a reference. That’s the red truck images you see.

My Take:

That’s everyone else’s ideas and expectations. These are my expectations and I do know this if Tesla wants this truck to be successful:

  • The target vehicle Tesla should be aiming for is NOT the Honda Ridgeline. I don’t know where that silly net sourced talk came from.
  • The target vehicle should be the Ford F-Series vehicles.
  • The direct competition should be Rivian and Range Rover/Land Rover Discovery. Everything a Rivian is and does is what a Tesla should also have and be doing.
  • This includes insane torque and horsepower and quad motors.
  • It should have at maximum at least 400 miles of range.
  • Do not put just a 15” or 17” screen on the dash Model 3 style. Also put dash instrumentation like both gas and electric versions have. This is not the time to go one screen like Model 3 in this segment. You can do that in a refresh preferably a next gen. Make the inside look no different than Model S.
  • It should have a large frunk, and preferably a frontgate.
  • Multiple power ports for devices/tools, ability to juice up other BEVs, and to plug itself into a home as a power source.
  • Severe terrain capable on the fly 4x4 and not just AWD. This includes ascent/descent control and military grade angles: it should be a real Jeep/Land Rover Discovery killer.
  • Almost completely submersible in water since it has no tailpipe.
  • Tow rated at least 10,000 lbs. GVWR.
  • Base interior ability to hose down with a garden hose. Connelly hides for top interior.
  • Like Bollinger and Rivian there should be a Range Rover killing SUV variant apart from Model X. It should be a serious top of the line/top of the range 2 and 4 door all terrain SUV not a CUV.
  • There should also be to come even later after the SWB SUV a Tesla Model U SVA Autobiography LWB 4 Door SUV to compete with RR and Bentley.

Regardless of what the truck will look like, and what may come for Model U, its unveil is scheduled sometime later this year in about nine months from now. If Model Y is scheduled as a 2021 for Fall of 2020, I say expect Model U to be a 2022 with production starting around mid-2021. All this in “Tesla time.” If this was “GM time” that would mean light years from now if ever.

As far as price point: the Model X starts around $79,500. I say that’s a good price point to start for a luxury truck like Model U. I could be wrong. So instead of us all arguing about all of this, why don’t we all just wait and see what happens?

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Photos: the Ram Tesla is from insideevs.com, the Ridgeline Tesla is from Reddit profiler u/LukeTospace, the Model S Pickup is from 2018 Pickup Trucks website, the red one is from Truck Trends, and the teaser from Tesla Media. These images appear online in competing publications such as Electrek, Inside EVs, and from sources like the Tesla Y unveil broadcast. I use them here with or without their permission as these images are now part of the news making national discussion on Tesla Model U. This makes them newsworthy. So all images are published here and all under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, and news reporting.

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Al Castro is a security expert and a retired LEO who is a staff and opinion piece writer on electric and autonomous vehicles for Torque News.

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Comments

kent beuchert (not verified)    March 19, 2019 - 12:30PM

The Model Y, virtually indistinguishable from its 75% in common Model 3 is a big flop. I can't even distinguish one from the other, except for the stupid caved in side panels on the uglier Model Y. Biggest lie of all was calling this vehice an SUV. Yeah, and I'm Napoleon wrote one blogger.

Al Castro    April 1, 2019 - 5:34AM

In reply to by kent beuchert (not verified)

Thanks for the comment. Kent I live in the LA area and today I was driving around Tesla design studio territory to see a Tesla that wasn’t quite as big as an X and bigger than 3 to wonder if that was a proto Y. Or wasn’t it? Go figure.

DeanMcManis (not verified)    March 28, 2019 - 11:47PM

The Model Y is a crossover, and just like the crossovers from a dozen other automakers it is mostly a taller version of a sedan. No surprises here. It's like the body design differences between the Volt and the Bolt. For the Model U there has been such contradicting information on the design I wonder if it will be like the Rivian, or a scaled down version of the Tesla Semi. I am hoping that it looks like the stylish renderings above, and importantly I hope that they make a formal announcement soon, even if it takes a few years to get them on the road. The model Y is hardly yesterday's news because it is not even released and able to drive yet. For people who wanted a Tesla, but wanted more space AND a lower price than the Model X, this will be a good fit. Seeing how there are only a tiny handful of EV crossovers available to buy today, and none yet that offer 65+ cu ft of internal storage for under $50K, there are a lot of potential buyers out there. For the Model U, the top selling Chevy and Ford Pickups show that MANY people are willing to spend $40K-$80K for a full sized pickup, and the Rivian has shown that many of those buyers are excited about an EV pickup, even if it isn't cheap to buy. Tesla just needs to translate their BEV expertise into the reality of a competitive, full sized pickup, and soon. Rivian has clearly accelerated Ford, Chevy, and Dodge's timetable for a BEV pickup, and most likely Tesla's Model U will raise the stakes even more. I do expect to see hybrid (PHEV) pickups (not just mild hybrids) in the next 1-2 years, but Tesla needs to beat Ford and GM (who could adapt a BEV drivetrain to an existing truck this year if they wanted to) to market.

Al Castro    April 1, 2019 - 5:37AM

Spot on Dean. We are in agreement that hybrids make great range extenders for trucks, especially for 4x4 trailing and camping where the next refueling station can be light years away. We may disagree that there is no more use for them for passenger vehicles, ionization is now cheap with no excuses. I’ll leave it there. Nice analysis.