Solar Roadways would be great, but won't happen

You may have heard the idea of replacing many of America’s roads with durable solar panels that could generate electricity. It’s a great idea, but here’s why it probably won’t work.

Solar Roadways, an Idaho-based startup founded by the entrepreneurial and brilliant couple Scott and Julie Brusaw, has obliterated its target of $1 million in a crowdfunding campaign. The company has raised over $1.8 million to date in just over five weeks through grassroots donations.

What is a Solar Roadway?

The idea generating so much support: hexagonal tiles with embedded solar panels, LEDs, and microprocessors capable of replacing virtually any paved surface with one that is “smart” and generates electricity. They are referred to as Solar Roadways, and in theory they could solve all our problems with carbon emissions from the electricity generation and transportation sectors.

Each tile would have a special tempered glass covering capable of withstanding typical loads that road surfaces are subjected to, as the company claims their prototype meets traction, load, and impact resistance requirements. The tiles would also have a thin heating element that would prevent snow from accumulating on the surface, and the interconnected microprocessors and LEDs lend themselves to many possible advantages such as reconfigurable lanes and warning messages.

Why it won’t work


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Great article and a fair treatment of the potential. The upside over roof or above ground installations is that support structure is minimal (but roadbed modifications may be needed?). The downside is the tremendous beating they must bear. But if freeze-thaw cycles are eliminated, perhaps there is a silver lining there? Looking forward to your take on the upside.
I would just like to see the asphalt and cement roadways actually done properly. In much of the Americas plowing the roads and laying down salt and sand are a part of the real world. This just seems like another crazy idea to a person that lives above the frost line. Can't wait to see the solar roofing shingles that were right around the corner 20 (30? 40?) years ago. Those made sense and I have never seen one on a real roof.
This is such a new topic ... it's basically only taken, what, nearly 80 years for real world technology to catch up with the vision proposed by Robert A. Heinlein back in 1940. Certainly he was talking more about moving sidewalks at the time as the main means of transportation similar to what we see in airports now. But he also proposed that those moving roads were powered by solar collectors on the roofs. In a NEW construction situation - simply taking flat roofed airports or large factories - putting solar collectors on the roofs of those buildings would be great, since we'd be talking tens of acres of panels at a time. Of course, what ends up happening is the upfront cost versus the savings is the issue, same as with wind power. (Without subsidies, it takes more than the lifespan of the generator to get payback on the cost of most wind turbines today.)
All I have to say about that is "Starship Troopers."
So long as you're talking the book, and not the movie... :) Also realize that Heinlein fully designed and described the water bed 30 years before anyone ever made them.
Indeed, although John Steakley vastly improved that book when he re-wrote it as Armor. You are what you do when it counts. - - Let's not forget that Heinlien also invented the acceleration-assisted birthing chair.
They are so wrong about this, solar panels are so efficient they'd be able to produce 3x the amount of power we use now, and not to mention they would cut down repair costs on roads, it would keep roads clear in the winter, it would make everything easier and better. It would pay for itself in a few years time, and more than that. Not only that, but if America has these, we'd be able to basically sell electricity to other countries in order to pay for this. This would also cut down on your electric bill immensely. Imagine looking at your bills and seeing almost nothing for your electric? Maybe a few bucks? Tell me that wouldn't make you smile. They said if we got behind it it would work, so do that, get behind it, and support it!
"They would be able to produce 3x the power we produce now"? You're so naive.
And I'm naive because? That's what the facts say, with that many solar panels all across America, we would produce far more energy than we use now.
haha you're naive because you blindly believe that it's currently possible to store all this energy in current batteries, and use it efficiently? You also think that all the solar energy just goes straight to batteries that we can use for powering anything we want, woo! You're an uneducated idiot haha.
Look up "How we can effectively store solar energy" One Google search and holy sh*t, just like that you're proven wrong.
I don't understand the basis for the statement "system will only truly work if it is everywhere". Not every phone was a version 1 iPhone, but that has transformed mobile phones. Especially in cold climates, I would think the cost savings of not having to plow snow not to mention the safety factor might pay for itself after a few years. Our little town just experimented with LED street lights and will be changing all the street lights to LEDs this summer. It would be cool if with their start-up $ and maybe some cost incentives some small towns can be an experimental site for these for streets or parking lot.
That's a fair point, Charlotte. What I meant was that I believe solar roads will be prohibitively expensive unless they are deployed en masse. We don't have any cost data from Solar Roadways, and that statement may not be entirely accurate, but it is my best assumption. The company's vision certainly isn't a parking lot here, a couple driveways and a city street or two there. They hope that solar roads will eventually (far in the future, granted) be everywhere, and that is where their biggest hope lies. Not that smaller scale deployment would be a bad thing, it just wouldn't reach the full potential of the potentially transformative system. Some parallels can be drawn with Tesla - still great in small volumes, but the ultimate goal is and has to be enabled by the largest battery factory the world has ever seen.
Basically the issue is, the system has a very high expense margin, even if deployed nationwide they are depending on the electricity it generates to pay it off. If it were deployed small scale and did not hit large scale soon enough it would be like igniting a match without applying it to gasoline. The idea has spark and potential but it did not receive its opportunity before the wind blew out the flame. There are two reasons it would have to be implemented nationwide and on a fairly short time frame aswell. On small scale, the engineering costs would GREATLY exceed the profit margin by the electrical output, even if it were deployed in a few major cities it still wouldn't be enough. It would have to become a standard and not an accessory THIS way the engineering costs will level out just as well as the system could be large enough to implement enough energy to sell to exceed the cost of engineering. While I understand what you mean about Cellphones, and they were quite entrepreneurship devices as they had to compete against land lines, cellular service is able to be implemented in an area and completely foot the bill of its engineering costs. A few cell phone towers designed and constructed with an area compared to redesigning an entire network of roads (which will also include the need to reprogram every single traffic light at every intersection and just a standard traffic signal costs in the ball park of $300,000) is comparing apples and oranges, the finance cost to implement a system like this is astronomical because its more than just one system, its compiling several systems into one and if not everyone is on the same page, the idea will fall flat on its face.
Yes, it would be costly. As costly as 10+ years of wars in the middle east? No. It would not cost as much, in lives or money, as war in the Middle East. I think that's worth the trouble.
Lol are you serious? Holy shit you're stupid. How can you compare a war, to a horrible idea?
With dollar signs.
This is comparing Apples and Oranges. The national defense system has an entirely separate and organized budget. Now I'm no fan for being in the middle east either, on the same token, I wouldnt be surprised if Solar Roadways did knock on the door of these costs.. we are talking about replacing every single road in the country with solar roadways. Just a few miles of interstate roads costs in the hundreds of millions of dollars, traffic lights are $300,000 just for a single intersection... and we're pioneering into bringing technology into our road ways. This bill is nothing to sneeze at.